Then there were folks like Patti Smith and Television who weren't really Punk or only occasinally Punk sound-wise
Maybe looking through today's narrow-vision punk glasses they weren't, but at the time? Definitely Punk!
I'm eleven hundred and twenty years old! Just gimme a friggin' beer!
Anya ,'Storyteller'
Buffista Music 4: Needs More Cowbell!
There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.
Jon B. - Mar 27, 2013 10:49:43 am PDT #5593 of 6436
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 11:06:39 am PDT #5594 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Maybe looking through today's narrow-vision punk glasses they weren't, but at the time? Definitely Punk!
As Verlaine himself said, "In the beginning of Punk every band was it's own strange little idea."
The idea that punk could be something homogenous or defined by The Ramones would've seemed ridiculous.
tommyrot - Mar 27, 2013 11:12:56 am PDT #5595 of 6436
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Someone once told me he considered Punk to consist of the Sex Pistols and other British bands involved in the UK punk scene in '76 and '77. And that was it.
DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 11:19:23 am PDT #5596 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Someone once told me he considered Punk to consist of the Sex Pistols and other British bands involved in the UK punk scene in '76 and '77. And that was it.
They're stupid and wrong. Any definition of Punk that doesn't include The Ramones is worthless. Any definition that would exclude Richard Hell and the Voidoids is worthless.
billytea - Mar 27, 2013 11:21:12 am PDT #5597 of 6436
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Someone once told me he considered Punk to consist of the Sex Pistols and other British bands involved in the UK punk scene in '76 and '77. And that was it.
That's pretty much exactly where I go when I think of punk.
DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 11:25:56 am PDT #5598 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
That's pretty much exactly where I go when I think of punk.
billytea! Don't embrace the wrongheadedness!
billytea - Mar 27, 2013 11:30:42 am PDT #5599 of 6436
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
billytea! Don't embrace the wrongheadedness!
Eh. I'm not trying to define the genre, that's just the punk with which I'm familiar. (Unlike New Wave, where I'm familiar with, and largely like, the American oeuvre, I just prefer the UK sound.)
Tom Scola - Mar 27, 2013 11:37:10 am PDT #5600 of 6436
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
Someone once told me he considered Punk to consist of the Sex Pistols and other British bands involved in the UK punk scene in '76 and '77. And that was it.
Except, of course, Estonian bands in 2013.
Volans - Mar 27, 2013 11:44:28 am PDT #5601 of 6436
move out and draw fire
Interestingly, I was coming in here to ask y'all how to explain or describe Punk to Mal, and who to play for him. I tend to reach for Ramones and Dead Kennedys and Milkmen, but clearly Sex Pistols...
What makes something punk? Why do they throw themselves off the stage? Why do they dress like that? These are the questions I get.
(Also, "Why don't you like country music?" but that's another topic.)
DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 11:55:15 am PDT #5602 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What makes something punk?
It's the "No!" that means "Yes!" (rejecting false affirmatives, destruction as an aspect of creation, "turning away in disgust is not the same thing as apathy", if the game is rigged don't play by the rules)
Why do they throw themselves off the stage?
Because: (a) it's reckless; and (b) they know somebody will catch them. Two core tenets of punk. Risk and community.
Why do they dress like that?
It's cheap and it makes a statement (see above for "No!").