Cereal:

This is also a night when Misha is tweeting with the show correct? I may follow that and the show and then come here to squee.

I don't know whether to save it and ration myself with a few minutes a day

Oh, AS IF.

I was trying to pretend I was capable of that.

I was trying to pretend I was capable of that.

You keep telling yourself stuff like that. If I gave you the episode right now you wouldn't have to watch it?

Thanks, Amy! I'll add that to my reading list for when I get home.

It's everything I can do not to seek out spoilers. If you offered me next weeks episode I would watch it immediately.

I'd watch the episodes in half of a heartbeat. I am skipping previews and spoilers but the whole ep? Hell yes.

Read the fic by Dira Sudis it's amazing. I know her from Due South and Stargate writing.

I'm trying to decide if I should watch the finale and not know most of what is going on or skip it and wait until I can get caught up on the season.

I don't remember where I found the story but I read Except Thou Bless me by architeuthis yesterday and omigod is it hot. [link]

It's weird because I don't quite get the Castiel/Dean subtext from watching (although again maybe because I watched too fast) but I totally want to read it from the stories I've read.

Especially really hot stories on themes of boundaries and control, obedience and submission.

I refuse to read anything other than what I've already read, but I will watch web teasers. They've got the CW logo on them, so they're all official and shit.

Or so I comfort myself.

Mostly, moving talking pictures of the boys. Makes for the grabby hands. But, damn, do I really want to place them in the entire context of an episode.

So much to happen tonight...they need to deal with the cliffhanger, get Cas (judging from webclip #1), defeat Pestilence and Death...and I wonder about Adam. I'm good with not seeing him again, but they need to tell me he's in heaven. I don't want him to be a Nick-level Michael-suit.

And then next week can be all about what the actual boxing-Lucifer plan is going to be, executing it, and of course the dying of whoever.

Assuming whoever doesn't die tonight, which I really don't hope, because too soon! Or maybe one dies tonight and one next week.

Ow. I hurt me.

And me.

No, no, no, no. I need someone to hold me.

Hmm - I personally enjoy Morgana's snark.

And just for perspective, one can really dislike one aspect of a show and still enjoy the show overall. Let me take an example that I've never seen any strong passion about. Medium is a show I came to late and really enjoy. But there is a subtext that drives me into a rage. People who disobey the law are evil - unless they are cops and friends with the main character. Then they are indpendent thinkers. They even took a poke at the innocence project where the guy was innocent of the crime he'd been convicted of, but the cop who framed him (the main characters friend) did so because he got away with a different rape-murder. So the cop who did the frameup was the good guy and the innocence project were a bunch of not good interfering trouble makers, probably with nefarious motives, but at any rate indifferent to the horrible real life consequence of their interference. And this was not the only Medium where we've seen this. Civil liberties are just this horrible irrational thing that makes it harder for good cops to do their job. And Medium is one of the more liberal cop shows out there. Closer is far worse. Anyone who "lawyers up" is a scumbag ect...

And I really hate that aspect of cop shows. But some of the best writing and acting out there is on cop shows. So I don't let the fact that I think cop shows really do long term damage to our society stop me from enjoying them. I mean I think they have played a huge role in the tolerance we have for torture, and the exaggerated fear of crime in the face of a crime rate that has fallen for decades that leads to weak support for civil liberties. But I'm not going to let that stop me from watching cop shows any more than the Tudor propaganda aspect of Shakespeare's plays kept them from competing successfully against bear baiting.

I would say I have a far more serious problem with cop shows than Morgana has with the treatment of Sam, and yet it does not keeping from enjoying them. I presume most people on this board have a problem with sexism. So does that mean we can't enjoy 19th century literature about 99% of which had horribly sexist attitudes?

So you can ask how someone can enjoy a show they have huge problems with. But it seems to me a fairly easy question to answer.