And now I've seen Dean torture Alistair. I liked this actor, he did the demon really well

I'm never able to get past the voice he uses for the character. It throws me out of the scene every time.

I thought it was clever, using the Brando voice to denote Alastair. Rolston used it to good, creepy advantage, and then Heyerdahl ramped it up. I like having some sort of this-world link between meatsuits--a behavior, a gesture. It just pleased me that this time it was a speech pattern. Pileggi and JDM used the same sort of physicality for Azazel, though that was almost certainly actor choice, by two rather large, physically imposing men. Lehne played him differently. JP did cop, though, to watching the Meg episodes in prep for BUaBS.

I posted this in Bitches and Natter as well, but I think there are a few people I've emailed things to that I only see here.

My gmail account got hacked last night, so sorry to all of those who got random emails

2 more sneaks - there is also a link to the first one. . . but as I said before - possibly more spoilery than most buffistas are comfortable with.

Now I'm finished with the season. And I have to wait until it comes out on DVD or try to catch reruns for Season 5. I went to iTunes to see how much it would cost to watch them there, but it's about the same price as pre ordering the dvds and I'm not going to pay for them twice like that.

Heyerdahl, I think, was creepier between the two main actors who have played Alastair. I liked that he was using the same mannerisms that Rolston used, it reinforces the idea of a single personality no matter what body.

I have to watch blonde Lilith again to see what I think of her, she wasn't doing the creepy little girl thing. But she was scary.

And Ruby was lying and manipulating Sam. I should feel bad for Sam, I think, instead I just want to shake him. Although I'm not sure where he got the Dean came back weak thing, was there something in particular Dean was doing or was it just Ruby and the demon blood feeding on fears and doubts? I was never quite sure where the "it has to be me!" came from. Except that he's got the demon blood and thinking that's why he had to finish it.

I am looking forward to the aftermath of all this. The messy issues it's going to bring up between them.

That's one problem with watching an entire season in 1 fell swoop some of the subtleties get missed.

Dean trying to work with the angels is interesting, I didn't think he'd do well obeying them.

Dean was drinking heavily, and was withdrawn and not as quick as before because he was dreaming of hell, and repressing the memories when he was awake. Sam was also being hypercritical of Dean to mask the guilt of his own compromised behavior with Ruby.

Just a mess, both of them.

Okay yeah the drinking and nightmares. That makes sense.

This is what happens when I watch everything at once and in a bit of a haze I forget details.

They are a mess, an interesting mess.

I need to go and watch everything slowly again and when I can pay some more attention to stuff.

Has the connections been made that Dean has done or resisted at least three things that he shouldn't have been able to?

Famine, killing an angel, killing the Whore of Babylon. Possibly looking upon Zacchariah's true form in his death throes.

I know I've seen mention of these oddities, but more in a context of "that makes no sense" or something along the lines of how his desire/intention to say yes to Michael empowered him thusly. And I don't quite trust Famine's honesty. But as I track back, it's starting to look like there's more to Dean's choseness than simply as a meat-suit.

Are you referring to the owner of the beach house? All asides to that person and the other things and people surrounding them were side-splitting.

Totally! I thought the choice was a good one, and I'd noted the similarity shortly before reading the story, and the writer made it very funny.

Other D/C recs to follow.

Dean was drinking heavily, and was withdrawn and not as quick as before because he was dreaming of hell,

Did they actually show him off his game, though? I didn't remember that. I thought it was just Sam overcompensating because he thought it was his turn to save the day.

Has the connections been made that Dean has done or resisted at least three things that he shouldn't have been able to?

Dean also resisted Lust of the seven deadly sins.

My personal fanon says that any of Team Free Will could have killed the Whore of Babylon if you consider "servant of Heaven" to mean a warrior of God (which is what I thought Castiel was getting at--since Pastor Gideon has no affiliation with Michael) and that they read incorrectly into Dean pulling it off.

As for drunk!Sam, I think that's encouraged because we've seen him drunk on the show, and not Dean, if memory serves. Drinking Dean, all the time, but not drunk or particularly hung over.

However, I read sloshed and slurring and puking Dean all the time, so drunk Sam wouldn't ping me at all.

Huffing and fisting and blown pupils--all the freaking time.

Did they actually show him off his game, though?

I remember--and I may have been reading in--some hesitation, some delay put down to tiredness, Sam questioning Dean's lack of energy, investment, eagerness, and Dean putting it down to "just tired." Dean's been tired for a while. But the drinking, while keeping him functional, after a fashion, also slowed his reactions to a degree, and depressed his responses.

Maybe, as I say, I'm reading in. But certainly JA has been reading tired and reluctant.