No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Apr 30, 2010 2:15:09 pm PDT #8201 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

During Sam's final confrontation with Brady, after Brady started telling him that Sam was a demon too (paraphrasing, bear with me), I wondered if Sam was going to be able to walk over the salt line.

I've wondered a few times if they were going to have issues with Sam crossing lines and such. How human is little Sammy, you know?

I hesitated with Sam crossing the salt line after Brady did all his blabbing. I'm choosing to think that the demon was supposed to put that doubt in my mind as well as Sam's, but Sam being able to cross it shows that he's not evil. So say we all.

What else is alteration of canon called?

Bullshit.

Or it should be.

I can't decide how much I believe Crowley.

I don't believe Crowley at all. Ruby was saying the same things about Lilith that Crowley is saying about Lucifer. Same characters, different gender. Still sexy.

As I am watching the "psychic kids" on the TNT run, I'm confused. If Sam is the one true vessel for Lucifer, why are there so many psychic kids? Was it all a set up so that Jake could kill him and therefore force Dean to make the crossroads deal, get into Hell, and break the first seal?

Some of this episode is just sinking in as far as how much Sam is discovering that his entire life has been manipulated. His mom was killed by the YED, his friends were selected by the YED, he was introduced to his love through the YED in order to give him the pain of her loss. Was Mary killed in order to do the same thing to John? So that John would raise the boys in the hunter life rather than being normal citizens? So much pain for Sam. Too much.

I bought that it was in character when Dean was standing and watching Sam take care of the demon. It seemed very paternal, like he was ready to step in if anything started to go sideways.

"I'm with Moose" and "I'm with Squirrel".

Now I'm earwormed with "moose and squirrel" in a bad russian accent, dahlink.

One tiny well-done technical thing? The sound of Crowley heavy-patting his hound. Very realistic.

Which just added to them being even more scary. I really don't like those things. My fear of monsters is now ranked at Vampires, Hellhounds, and then Werewolves. Wait. Clowns, Vampires, Hellhounds, and then Werewolves.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2010 2:33:33 pm PDT #8202 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm going to have to put Weeping Angels right at the top of the list. Thank you, Steven Moffat.

I'm rewatching the end of the ep, and Sam standing menacingly watching Brady in the alley is ♥. The whole exchange:

Dean: All those angels, all those demons, all those sons of bitches, they just don't get it, do they Sammy?
Sam: No they don't, Dean.
Dean: You see, Brady, we're the ones you should be afraid of.

Is why I love outsider POV so much. They are both so far gone down the all-but-psycho path. I love that Dean calls this angry hulk of a man Sammy, and Sammy doesn't object.

Okay, now I'm earwormed with "a moose bit my sister."

Thanks, Edlund!


Theresa - Apr 30, 2010 2:38:12 pm PDT #8203 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I'm going to have to put Weeping Angels right at the top of the list. Thank you, Steven Moffat.

Oh, Blink. ::Shiver::


ehab - Apr 30, 2010 3:07:25 pm PDT #8204 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Thanks for the link Tiggy.

and by that you mean Porn?

I do. I really really do. If anyone spots this Castiel/Crowley porn first, please do share. I'll even take sexy gen.

Please let them interact next week.

I believe Crowley doesn't want Lucifer to succeed. I may be stupid, it has been suggested before. While I believe that, I also believe screwing over Bobby and the Winchesters is part of his plan.


DebetEsse - Apr 30, 2010 4:05:59 pm PDT #8205 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I also thought sure it was going to be a "there's a ritual, but someone has to die" thing. If Bobby does go all Winchester (srsly, selling one's soul is like the defining act of Winchesterdom), he should get some flippin collateral.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 30, 2010 4:08:54 pm PDT #8206 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Mrs. Peacock, Weeping Angels, Clowns, Vampires, and then Werewolves. I've never bought the hellhounds on this show enough to find them scary.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2010 4:30:50 pm PDT #8207 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Web teaser.

I'm crying again. Seriously. Tears down my face.

Anyway, on other topics...good call on Mrs. Peacock. I do really like the hellhounds. And I love Dean's phobia of them. Well played, Kripke, well played. That should resound.

Okay, gonna go watch the webclip again.


Amy - Apr 30, 2010 4:41:05 pm PDT #8208 of 30002
Because books.

Partly with laughter , I assume. Oh dear.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2010 4:42:43 pm PDT #8209 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Totally with laughter. Ah, the crazy kids. Also, Sam. Of course, this makes it more and more likely that John made out with YED when he made the deal for Dean, but that's not as funny. I'm assuming there wasn't tongue. And no iPhones.


Cass - Apr 30, 2010 4:54:44 pm PDT #8210 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Curse you, ita! For I now apparently will click on web clips. Okay, just once. Just once is totally fine. I can resist more. I can just wait to see the eps air. How hard is that. It's nearly Thursday already, right? How hard can this be?