ita, I think you need to share the spreadsheet.
By which I mean grabby hands.
Everyone's getting spanked but me.
Willow ,'The Killer In Me'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Lee - Apr 19, 2010 12:46:40 pm PDT #7684 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
§ ita § - Apr 19, 2010 12:53:54 pm PDT #7685 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think you need to share the spreadsheet.
Really, I need to put in writers, at the very least. Maybe also directors.
And resist the urge to make graphs. Oops. Too late.
Gimme a couple days.
Theresa - Apr 19, 2010 12:55:58 pm PDT #7686 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Really, I need to put in writers, at the very least. Maybe also directors.
And resist the urge to make graphs. Oops. Too late.
Totally coveting the spreadsheet.
Theresa - Apr 19, 2010 1:50:22 pm PDT #7687 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
I'm watching Cassie and the Racist truck for the first time in over a year. Which makes me feel even more obsessed because I'm trying to absorb everything that is said about Cassie and Dean.
I wonder if the actress that played Cassie had done a better job, if she was meant to be Lisa.
Cass - Apr 19, 2010 2:44:54 pm PDT #7688 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I personally think the Cassie actress was just so terribly miscast that there was no hope of ever going back to her so they came up with Lisa and dream Carmen. With better casting, I think we'd have seen more of Cassie. Not as a major role, just alluded to when Dean wanted to dream about "Normal."
Amy - Apr 19, 2010 2:47:16 pm PDT #7689 of 30002
Because books.
Do you mean there would have been no Lisa character, and they would have revisited Cassie, Theresa?
My problem with that episode, outside of the actress being not up to the job, was that they simply overplayed the whole thing. They only dated a month! Give me two, at least, and then that argument pre-sex has a little more weight. It was written as if they had dated for a year or something. A month just isn't enough time to be that intimate, at that age, unless they were living together.
§ ita § - Apr 19, 2010 2:53:59 pm PDT #7690 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I can see Dean rushing into love, because he's so into the moment. So someone it might have taken normal!Dean a few months to fall for, he went precipitously for. Even though he's boff-at-first-sight-cad, I can still buy a special someone, someone he actually went back to, and who gave him a sense of ease, slipping through.
I mean, it's not like he went back to Lisa, until The Kids Are Alright. He just never left.
As for Cassie falling in love with him...did she?
I chalk most, if not all, of the fail to the actress.
In a proper world with an actress with chemistry, I would be 50-50 about Dean going back to her or Lisa in 99 Problems. Because I think Lisa having a child (which I still maintain isn't his) was important to his vision. But in Dream A Little Dream? That could very well have been Cassie at that point, which would have messed up the Lisa return in 99P.
Cass - Apr 19, 2010 2:59:13 pm PDT #7691 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I think in some situations, a month could be that intense. I know I had relationships that were only a few months but still were enormously important in my life. And I wasn't saving things and hunting people in the family business.
Not that there couldn't easily still be Lisa and certainly the non!miniDean changed his view of her and a possible future, just romanticizing the one person you tried having a brief but real relationship with over "the bendiest weekend of you life" seems more understandable to me.
Sadly that actress was more wooden than the paneling next to her that Dean had all kinds of chemistry going on with. Actually that scene works for me if I just accept that Dean has a hardwood fetish.
Theresa - Apr 19, 2010 3:03:22 pm PDT #7692 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Romeo and Juliet only had one, maybe two nights though. And Sarah Conner had an equally short time with Kyle (can I be a bigger geek?), so I don't have a problem with the length of time. Dean nor Cassie neither one are selling me that they have ever loved each other.
Yes, that's what I meant. That they all would have been the same girl if Cassie had worked out better. Independent of the relationship though, the episode isn't that entertaining. If this had been the pilot, I wouldn't have watched again. Not liking the writing, the cinematography, the acting, really anything.
Amy - Apr 19, 2010 3:13:07 pm PDT #7693 of 30002
Because books.
I think it was so early on, and all we had seen of Dean was charming waitresses and girls like the one in Wendigo (to whom he said he had never been so honest with another woman, ever), that the writers didn't sell it to me. And then JA and that actress together didn't sell it to me, either.
Not that there couldn't easily still be Lisa and certainly the non!miniDean changed his view of her and a possible future, just romanticizing the one person you tried having a brief but real relationship with over "the bendiest weekend of you life" seems more understandable to me.
Yes, this. But I think that's probably due to both casting/scheduling conflicts, and how easily Kripke responds to fan complaints.