In my head, Sam/Dean is always based on having no one else, and on being fucked up and damaged, but manages to be solace and comfort, so therefore not really sad. Or something. Sort of the last refuge of desperate men who are finally, irrevocably outside society.

For reasons I'm not sure I understand, the idea of Simon/River really squicks me, even though you can see it from space. I think it might have to do with consent issues, and her being not quite, you know, sane. At least a lot of the time.

I read that conversation you linked to last night, ita, and I like it. I think I need to think about more, because I feel like I'm agreeing with it too readily, and I know I already forgive Show a lot as it is. Feels like a rationalization maybe? Or I'm just not used to someone feeling the same way I do?

Wow, I cannot spend this whole day obsessing and watching the clock. Can't. Someone discipline me.

Or Damon/Stefan?

In a Catherine threesome, maybe. Or hatesex, I suppose. I can't work those crazy kids out.

Try it with dee-monic possession!

Or the every popular sex pollen. But for me, they'd need to hate themselves afterwards, and where's the fun in that? Okay, some fun, but not enough.

Try it with dee-monic possession!

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eta: Or with Gremlins: [link]

I think those, plus the one with the half-powered siren, are the only three cake stories I finished.

I feel like I'm agreeing with it too readily, and I know I already forgive Show a lot as it is. Feels like a rationalization maybe? Or I'm just not used to someone feeling the same way I do?

A bit of both, for me. She doesn't touch on the bits where I think Show fails, like in sexing up the female victims in a way they don't do the males (yeah, horror trope, but over it), but for the instances she brings up, and the agency of the female characters created, I agree with her a fair amount.

Demonic possession with John involved makes me want to run screaming. I can't even get through it. Which is weird, if you know the stuff I've written.

[foo] is delicious! will never not be funny to me.

I'm just a big fan of possessed or evil Sam. Being Very Very Bad.

A bit of both, for me. She doesn't touch on the bits where I think Show fails, like in sexing up the female victims in a way they don't do the males (yeah, horror trope, but over it), but for the instances she brings up, and the agency of the female characters created, I agree with her a fair amount.

This. I think the discussion in the comments is the best part.

[foo] is delicious! will never not be funny to me.

I *love* that story.

I wonder if there's an explicit reason we've never seen possessed!Dean. I mean, beyond the hallucination in Dream A Little Dream of Me. I've seen a lot of TWOPpers speculate he's immune to possession and horseman influence and point to him overcoming Lust in The Magnificent Seven.

It's just another thing I'd like to see Ackles do.

It may be, post S3, to emphasise that the evil things he did, he did as a human, even though we only see the very slightest iceberg-tip of that in On The Head Of A Pin.

HowEVER, Evil!Sam is a gift. Hoo boy. Whether he's possessed or hopped up or Lucifer's meatsuit, JP knocks it out of the park--in very different ways. Mmm, mmm, good.

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I *love* that story.

Is that what Perkins linked to (can't look right now) or something else?

Oh no, "[foo] is delicious!" is a story, not what Perkins linked to. Perkins linked to sublime silliness.

Evil!Sam, in fic anyway, has been taken so far over the edge, most of it's not even remotely in character, or what would be in character if Sam went darkside. For me, anyway.

It is odd that Dean has never been possessed. Although you could count shapeshifter!Dean if you wanted to, I guess. Just as an example of JA playing evil.

I think we need the link to that story, Aims.