Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Apr 08, 2010 10:20:28 pm PDT #7049 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I just think your lead up needs more than a one-off ref 2 years ago and some previouslies.

This didn't bother me either because when Dean first reunited with her, she was just a woman from 9 or 10 years ago that he remembered fondly. Maybe even more than that but he's not going to be mushy in front of Sam. After the reunion and meeting Ben, evidently that has been the happy place that he has been keeping from Sam and us. Lisa was very much always present for me because I always (only half jokingly) said that I believed she lied and that Ben was Dean's son. So in those few moments, I had everything that had been at the back of my mind about Lisa and now know that Dean doesn't share everything with anyone. Not Sam, not us.


Morgana - Apr 08, 2010 10:20:41 pm PDT #7050 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I had assumed that if one of the guys finally caved and said "Yes" it would be under duress -- for instance, Lucifer would be holding an elementary school hostage and threatening to behead all the little children one by one, or Michael would be permitting bad things to happen to good people in a way that Dean couldn't live with, and that they'd cave and say "Yes" to stop it. But that isn't what's happening at the moment - I'm trying to figure out what's sending Dean off on this road now. It wouldn't be his ability to stake the Whore of Babylon proving he's meant to be The Righteous Man of God who can kill things on heaven's behalf, because he already knows he's been picked by heaven to be their avatar. That's not new information. So why now?


Theresa - Apr 08, 2010 10:27:09 pm PDT #7051 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I think when Castiel said that Dean couldn't kill her that was true. I don't think Dean had made the decision yet to say yes. I think the act of deciding to say yes to Michael as he was pinned underneath the false prophet, was what made him be able to kill her. I have to see it again to see what exactly changed his mind.


P.M. Marc - Apr 08, 2010 10:33:48 pm PDT #7052 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think it is possible that what the episode was trying to show/reveal (I don't think Julie Siege is one of their stronger writers) was that Dean had made his decision to say yes after Paul was killed, which was why he was able to stake her. I mean, I always thought Sam would say yes under duress, but Dean would say it having been worn down and finally thinking of it as the least bad option. (I had some drawerfic Kripked tonight, so it's possible I spent the post Abandon All Hope hiatus thinking about this too hard.)

Eh, I'll Doyle this one as needed lead-up for Episode 100. Which better knock my Watson socks off.


P.M. Marc - Apr 08, 2010 10:34:36 pm PDT #7053 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think when Castiel said that Dean couldn't kill her that was true. I don't think Dean had made the decision yet to say yes. I think the act of deciding to say yes to Michael as he was pinned underneath the false prophet, was what made him be able to kill her. I have to see it again to see what exactly changed his mind.

Yes! This! (Which you posted while I was writing my last post.)


Theresa - Apr 08, 2010 10:48:16 pm PDT #7054 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Maybe it was Paul getting killed when the decision was made. I buy that it has been a gradual wearing away.

Also I'm staying up way too late playing with Status Shuffle on Facebook and going into the tags of Supernatural. Someone has already added, "I found a liquor store and drank it." So I added the Enochian quote.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2010 4:36:33 am PDT #7055 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just think your lead up needs more than a one-off ref 2 years ago and some previouslies.

Lead up to what, though? Here's the thing--I don't think Lisa is Dean's true love. I don't think he can settle down with her at the end of the series for true happiness, not without some extra work on the part of the writers.

But I do believe at this point in his emotional journey that she's the best he can do, and the fact that all we have is two references from two years ago reflects on Dean, not the writers, and makes him sadder.


Volans - Apr 09, 2010 4:37:43 am PDT #7056 of 30002
move out and draw fire

(again, popping in here with my eyes screwed shut so I don't spoil myself since I'm watching these on DVD)

but my most recent SPN convert just sent me this email:

re: the "Malleus Maleficarum" episode's last scene

Dean: Ruby! Why do you want us to win?

Ruby: Isn't it obvious? I'm not like them. I don't know why, I wish I was, but I'm not...

Now sure, the grammar could be correct, but only if what she wishes isn't in doubt or if she doesn't in fact wish it, which would be ridiculously satisfying in a way...

The sad part: I only really started disliking Ruby when she fucked up the subjunctive.


sumi - Apr 09, 2010 5:39:57 am PDT #7057 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Sneaks at Mo Ryan's blog.


ehab - Apr 09, 2010 5:47:09 am PDT #7058 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I'm kind of craving a fanfic where the apocalypse is done and Dean has a home base with Lisa & Ben (but still hunts with Sam). Mostly I just want Dean's 90% hardcore lifestyle to come up against domestication in hilarious ways. I cannot see him settling into normal home life smoothly.

Pistol under the pillow
Jack in the bathroom
Inappropriate language around minors
Bloody returns from hunts - startling the neighbors
Making Ben's lunches in the morning
Going grocery shopping
Coaching little league or attending a boy scout meeting
Dexter-like shed in the back

Yes, I might be craving a funny schmoopy fic. I need an escape from the bleak. It's promising to only get bleaker.