We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm the hero!

Wash ,'Jaynestown'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Apr 08, 2010 11:54:04 am PDT #6995 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, I will agree with you there, no question. Some of the writing on Buffy was so dead on, it was absolutely cutting. And I agree that it's often the visuals in SPN, the expressions, the turning away or turning toward, etc.

God, the fruit punch speech. I could get choked up right now thinking about it. I also think that was one time Joss really surprised me -- I did *not* expect him to kill Joyce, even for a minute.

I think the difference in my head might be that what Kripke and Co. put the boys through is the gutting thing, and on Buffy it was more often about how those things were played out (or written). Which is pretty much what you said, I think.

Now I'm rambling. Both shows, excellent! Both shows, gutting for me! Fire bad!


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 08, 2010 12:15:13 pm PDT #6996 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Of course, one wonders where Sam was before he was resurrected and how the demon could get its hands on his soul to bring him back to life.

If people immediately woke up in heaven postmortem there'd be no need for Reapers, right? Maybe Sam was still in transit when the demons brought him back.

I would assume that Dean was either held in stasis after his death in Mystery Spot or just skipped forward to the point that the Trickster undid the whole pseudo-reality setup. Everyone and everything in that scenario other than Sam and Dean themselves were just creations of Gabriel's, if I understand it correctly.

I didn't think he was creepy talking through the Impala, but whoa man, he was creepy as hell coming through the TV.

The former creeped me out because of the crackly barely-there connection, with its implication of vast distances being bridged and the possibility that the Winchesters could be lost forever to Castiel if they progressed too far away from the world of the living. Early on the scary dream-like mood of the episode was fantastic, but I find that the Kurt Fuller's smarmy, mystery-free portrayal of Zachariah just sucks away any sense of foreboding and majesty that should be there. Misha (before Castiel became too cuddly as Dean's BFF anyway), the Raphael and Joshua actors, and for that matter both Jared and Bellamy Young as Lucifer can convince me that they're playing ageless beings far removed from the human way of thinking. Fuller, Julie McNiven, and Mark Pellegrino, not so much.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2010 12:30:57 pm PDT #6997 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Misha (before Castiel became too cuddly as Dean's BFF anyway), the Raphael and Joshua actors, and for that matter both Jared and Bellamy Young as Lucifer can convince me that they're playing ageless beings far removed from the human way of thinking. Fuller, Julie McNiven, and Mark Pellegrino, not so much.

What about Speight and Robert Wisdom?

I like Mark Pellegrino's Lucifer, but it doesn't have a patch on Padalecki's. Creepy-assed shit. Kurt Fuller represents a very depressing heaven. Bureaucracy run amok. I don't see him and Uriel in the same place.


P.M. Marc - Apr 08, 2010 1:36:24 pm PDT #6998 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Kurt Fuller will always be Karl Rove to me.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 08, 2010 1:44:22 pm PDT #6999 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

What about Speight and Robert Wisdom?

Speight no (I like him as The Trickster, but if anything he's a less impressive angel than Fuller); Wisdom yes at first but not so much later as he became more obviously a heavy.


Amy - Apr 08, 2010 3:34:32 pm PDT #7000 of 30002
Because books.

Sam and Dean at the start of Dark Side of the Moon, LOLcat style


Morgana - Apr 08, 2010 4:01:53 pm PDT #7001 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

They didn't show the amulet dump in the previouslies.


Theresa - Apr 08, 2010 4:03:48 pm PDT #7002 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Daniel Jackson!!!


Morgana - Apr 08, 2010 4:05:41 pm PDT #7003 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Perhaps travelling into the midst of a town full of gung-ho weapon-slinging types when you're known as the One Who Started the Apocalypse is not the best idea?


Amy - Apr 08, 2010 4:07:54 pm PDT #7004 of 30002
Because books.

Blue Earth! That's Pastor Jim territory!