Dawn: I thought you were adequate. Giles: And the accolades keep pouring in. I'd best take my leave before my head swells any larger. Good night.

'First Date'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Morgana - Apr 01, 2010 5:30:43 pm PDT #6707 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Those are Sam's strongest memories right this minute and not one of them includes Dean.

It started with a Sam and Dean memory, though. And Dean had a memory that didn't include Sam. Dean really, really has issues with not letting Sam "establish an independent identity" or whatever the psychologists would call it. If Sam had stayed home and not gone to college, Dean probably would have smothered him. He would have done it with love every step of the way, but he would have suffocated him.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2010 8:07:51 pm PDT #6708 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wow, that was unremittingly painful.

I think Dean is blind right now, and can't see that Sam cares, and that's why he threw the amulet away. It's not just Sam, but it's definitely got Sam in it. He's isolated--from Sam, from everyone. He caved and prayed, and God rejected him. His idyllic home memories weren't that. Castiel's probably off beginning his fall and is of no use to anyone. Bobby has been gotten to by Lucifer.

Michael's the closest to anything he's got right now. I think he's gonna be saying yes, and it may not have anything to do with Sam saying yes to Lucifer. He will probably think he's the only one that can fix it and that no one else can help, because he doesn't trust them anymore--but he'll still feel responsible for them.

He didn't hear when Ash said that soulmates find each other in heaven, as he and Sam sat there. He didn't see Sam wince with every blow Zach's henchman dealt him. His very first heavenly memory was of being hugged by Sam.

I know there are meta reasons, but it's still narratively interesting that John doesn't figure directly into their heavens.


P.M. Marc - Apr 01, 2010 8:11:11 pm PDT #6709 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It started with a Sam and Dean memory in Dean's head. Sam started with the kindness of strangers.

I am not saying Sam is wrong to have gone out on his own (for college--not when he ran away from home), but neither is Dean for being hurt that Sam's heavenly memories were of someone else's Thanksgiving (taste of normal), hanging out on his own with a dog having run off, and leaving for Stanford (in what we already knew was a blow out fight between Sam and John).

So Dean dropping the amulet, it's not about Sam going off to college, really. It's about all of it. Not even Sam, but Sam and Pamela and Ellen and Jo and Mom and God and the cumulative loss of people and loss of faith in the mission and self and relationships.

Sam... is not that kid who ran away from his brother and holed up with a dog, not any longer. And we, the audience know that. Sam knows that (HIS LITTLE FACE, OMG! SO MUCH PAIN THERE WHEN IT DROPPED!), but Dean? Doesn't. Or doesn't trust that he does.


Lee - Apr 01, 2010 8:16:29 pm PDT #6710 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

OH MY GOD

This was so much MAN PAIN

Loved the ep, a lot, but DAMN


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2010 8:31:54 pm PDT #6711 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

EVERY SINGLE CODA FIC better involve Sam fishing that amulet out of the trash.

I think Sam learnt a lot more than Dean did. Dean became aware of some facts he hadn't previously known of, but he took everything personally right away. Sam learnt stuff about Dean, and about his family. Hopefully it's enough, because I'm not sure where Dean's epiphany is going to come from.

And...Castiel! He believed God was in this, just like Sam believed angels were good. Oh, Gabriel must be laughing at him now.

Poor heartbroken Cas. And, really, Dean's the only person who can stop him from becoming End!Cas, and I'm not sure that's his priority right now. Or maybe what he said about Sam being his friend will count for something. But Sam didn't see how far Cas had sunk.


Morgana - Apr 01, 2010 8:51:40 pm PDT #6712 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

EVERY SINGLE CODA FIC better involve Sam fishing that amulet out of the trash.

I keep remembering how Sam wore it while Dean was in hell, and how he pulled it over his head to give it back to him right away, as soon as Dean came back. Dean valued that amulet, dammit, and I want him to keep it.

Poor heartbroken Cas.

I think Castiel might be the most broken member of Team Free Will right now. Sam and Dean can turn to each other, even if they're not doing so right now, but Castiel really doesn't have anyone at all. He doesn't have his faith any longer. He's just totally adrift.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2010 9:02:15 pm PDT #6713 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Also a lot of scene insert fic about Sam's stolen 2 weeks and the beating (no doubt) that Dean got at John's hand about it. And what did Mary and John fight about? Family business?

Castiel could have Dean. He fell for Dean. He's been his other pillar of faith. But Dean's just one man, a mayfly compared his existence. But he's an apocalyptical mayfly.


P.M. Marc - Apr 01, 2010 9:21:59 pm PDT #6714 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Castiel could have Dean. He fell for Dean. He's been his other pillar of faith. But Dean's just one man, a mayfly compared his existence. But he's an apocalyptical mayfly.

It took me a few to read the fell for without slash as my default view.

Meanwhile, OH, BOYS!!!!!


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2010 9:34:44 pm PDT #6715 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Exclusive Season 6 Scoop.

Ah, that Eliza.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2010 9:42:23 pm PDT #6716 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

TV.COM TEASER:

hSPOILER ALERT! Supernatural's penultimate episode for this season features a doozy of a lip lock. Writers Ben Edlund and Sara Gamble, who have played off the show's rabid fanbase several times this season, will have the demon Crowley infect the minds of both Sam and Dean, causing them to have unusual feelings for each other. In a dream sequence, the two brothers will finally kiss. [Wincest Times]

Off topic, they also note:

Firefly, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and Dollhouse star Summer Glau has signed on to a new NBC pilot in which she'll play a emotionless woman who knows how to fight and/or is good at science. The project's working title is Already Canceled, and Reaper's Tyler Labine will co-star. [Hollywood Hoo-Ha!]