Oh, wow. That is so sad. His talent will be greatly missed.
Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.
'Unleashed'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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SailAweigh - Jan 26, 2009 8:09:21 pm PST #624 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Fay - Jan 27, 2009 6:04:29 am PST #625 of 30002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
That really is terribly sad. Much healing and dealing -ma to his family and friends. And, on a shallowly selfish note, I'm sorry he won't be making any more telly.
On another note - do we know if there's going to be a season five? I'm rather torn as to whether I WANT one. Because I'm enjoying the narrative arc and I don't want them to fuck it up just to get another season - would rather have a killer Season 4 than a so-so Season 4 and a so-so Season 5. And I honestly don't know where they could possibly go after Huge Celestial Showdown Of Apocalyptic Proportions. (I mean, yes, sure BtVS did that most seasons - but we were operating within a context where you needed to know the plural of apocalypse.)
otoh, I am obsessing a wee bit over the brothers Winchester and their various demonic and celestial acquaintances. So that makes me dread the end of the show. Gah.
Oh, show. Don't be crap! You are flawed, but this whole angel-demon thing (and the Castiel-Dean thing, and the Ruby/Sam thing, and the Ruby-Dean thing) is like fucking CATNIP.
Beverly - Jan 27, 2009 6:24:45 am PST #626 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
As has been related first and second hand by various members of the Supernatural manufacturing collective, the writers' strike put a serious gap in the number of episodes Kripke had planned to tell the S3 arc of his 5-year story. He's always been ready to wrap the major arc up at short notice, but there are always side issues he's wanted to explore, and has done.
The CW gave him a big bump in budget after S2, but then when the strike cost them money, they yanked a chunk of that budget back, so he had to scale the big effects for the apocalypse and other supernatural stuff way back. At the same time, they greenlighted S4, but reduced his budget even further. As an aside, this makes me happy because I'd much rather rely on human interaction and invention (writing and acting) to get a story across than oooh!ahhh! over splashy FX.
With the ratings as low as they were last season (lost momentum due to the strike, and a very unfortunate character arc made stronger than originally intended by missing storybuilding with the skipped episodes) and the money problems the CW has been having, S5 was seeming iffy. Even if the network was ready to give them a fifth season, there was speculation the network itself might go bankrupt. So Kripke planned S4 as his Big Finale, planning to wrap up as many story arcs and tie up as many loose ends as possible.
I will give the man this--he's always known where he's going, and when things get tight, he concentrates on the big picture, and gets his story told.
Then the ratings went sky high for S4, and the network said, "In all likelihood you'll get S5", so they've been backing up the big mythic story arc and putting in more small story stuff--not padding, exactly, just a more relaxed pace toward this season's finale-cliffhanger. The Big Finale is now slated for next season, with lots of family and thematic goodness in between.
...As nearly as I've been able to parse from interviews and offhand remarks.
Ailleann - Jan 27, 2009 6:45:24 am PST #627 of 30002
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And I honestly don't know where they could possibly go after Huge Celestial Showdown Of Apocalyptic Proportions. (I mean, yes, sure BtVS did that most seasons - but we were operating within a context where you needed to know the plural of apocalypse.)
There's something in me that wishes that SOMEONE will take an action that will completely thwart the Apocalypse pre-HCSOAP. I know that that doesn't fit TV structure, but... nobody involved really *wants* the Apocalypse, you know?
signed, Everything I Know About The Apocalypse I Learned From Good Omens
Beverly - Jan 27, 2009 9:10:20 am PST #628 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
From Facebook.
Beverly - Jan 27, 2009 11:41:07 am PST #629 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Has iTunes put up the last ep for download yet? I didn't get a notification, and it's not coming up as available for me when I check my iTunes account.
Lee - Jan 27, 2009 4:31:11 pm PST #630 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I haven't gotten it yet either.
Theresa - Jan 27, 2009 4:52:15 pm PST #631 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
From Facebook
Facebook is a pretty sad place right now.
Beverly - Jan 27, 2009 7:12:28 pm PST #632 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
It really is. There's over 600 people since yesterday in the We Will Miss thread. Group. Comm. Whatever FB calls it. Jim Beaver's picked up a tonload of new "friends" in the last day, as well.
Theresa - Jan 27, 2009 7:20:13 pm PST #633 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
JB has a facebook? Or just on myspace. I'll friend him on facebook, but I can't do the myspace thing.