You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Beverly - Mar 15, 2010 6:22:47 pm PDT #5941 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Still. sifting.


ehab - Mar 15, 2010 6:23:36 pm PDT #5942 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I found both S2 and s4 really hard. I liked those seasons a whole lot.


Lee - Mar 15, 2010 6:23:38 pm PDT #5943 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Season 3: Bad day at black rock, Fresh Blood, Very Supernatural Christmas, Mystery Spot, Ghost Facers

Season 4: In the beginning, Monster Movie, Wishful Thinking (Giant Suicidal Teddy bear, IJS), It's a Terrible life, In the beginning (it totally needs two spots)


P.M. Marc - Mar 15, 2010 6:49:23 pm PDT #5944 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

God, In the Beginning. I have watched that episode more times than I watched What Is and What Should Never Be. I mean, DAMN.

Like, if I had to choose between them, I would cry, and probably still go with In the Beginning.

S1: Pilot, Asylum, Home, Faith, Devil's Trap.

S2: In My Time of Dying, Nightshifter, Tall Tales, Born Under a Bad Sign, What is and What Should Never Be.

S3: Fresh Blood, A Very Supernatural Christmas, Mystery Spot, Jus in Bello, Ghostfacers

S4: In the Beginning, Monster Movie, Monster at the End of this Book, The Rapture, When the Levee Breaks

S5 to date: Good God Y'All, The End, Changing Channels, Abandon All Hope, My Bloody Valentine.


Beverly - Mar 15, 2010 7:20:38 pm PDT #5945 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I should just nod and point at Plei's list. However. My attention is required elsewhere, so I'll have to finish this later.

S1--

These first two were directed by David Nutter, well-known as a director of pilots. He is a master at laying out plot direction and giving broad but recognizable character notes in a single episode, and they had him for the first two.

Pilot-sets up the whole show, as Kripke envisioned it: The Sam Show, with sidekick wisecracking Han Solo older brother. We get the family history, that they were raised like warriors, that Sam opted out, that there's something wrong, Dad's missing, and a creepy mystery to solve. We get family dynamics and the mechanics of ghost hunting, and an emotional hook at the end. This show isn't going to pull punches and solve things happily by the time credits roll.

Wendigo-okay, the monster is a huge cheese factor, but it's set off by the cool points of CKR, so I figure those two balance out. Everything else is a plus. I love competent Sammy, his training taking over despite his reluctance toward the life. We get You gotta get a handle on that anger, man, it's going to eat you up. We get "This book." We get, "Killing things, saving people, the family business." We get smart Sam, figuring out what they're up against. We get frantic Sam when Dean gets got. We get a pretty elegant smoking gun, "What do you mean, I didn't bring provisions?" and a clever breadcrumb trick. We get Sam rescuing Dean. There is nothing about this episode I don't like.

Dead in the Water-Lots of backstory--Sam learns something he never knew about Dean, and we learn that Dean isn't just a wisecracking shady drifter who hits on anything. There's genuine concern in him for the defenseless, and that motivates him as much as pleasing his dad. It's also Kim Manners' debut as SPN director, and it is a turning point in the direction the whole series took. Up till this ep it was two guys in a muscle car chasing occult bad guys. Manners saw depth and complexity in what the actors could do with the characters, and nobody everlooked back.

Faith-Fierce determined Sammy, absent father, resigned-to-his-fate Dean. More detailed looks into the boys' psyches, what drives them, what their fears are, and more family dynamic.

Home-Ultimate backstory, and more backbone on which to build mytharc.

Something Wicked-backstory. Sam learns more about Dean

Shadow-Dad, of course, and Meg.

Dead Man's Blood, Salvation, Devil's Trap-a three-hour episode. So much family and character goodness I can't eliminate any of them.

(I give nods to Phantom Traveler for Dean's glee over the EMF meter he built and Sam's disdain for it, for the depth of Dean's flying phobia and the ease with which Sam powers over Dean's fear and helps him (makes him) deal with it. And for the backstory that John and Dean had helped someone who'd remembered and called on them again in need. And to Bugs for the Dad did check up on you at Stanford, moron. Did you think we'd let you go off and forget you?)

S2-

IMTOD-Arguably one of the best eps of the series.

Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things-Sam trying to pull Dean back from self-destruction. I'm not fond of the zombie storyline, but there are so many good moments in this ep.

Simon Said-I love Andy. It also escalates Sam's jeopardy with the YED, and showcases Dean's fear for Sam and determination to protect and save him.

Crossroad Blues-sets up the deals later on. Plus bonus points for use of the Robert Parker legend.

Croatoan-what Amy said, plus the ending scene.

Hunted-the bookending opening scene. Introducing Ava. Funkytown. Gordon's fervid belief in Sam's eviltude.

Nightshifter-everything

Houses of the Holy-more backstory. Sam's desperate belief. Dean's desolate denial.

Born Under a Bad Sign-Oh, Sammy. Oh, Jo. Oh, Dean.

Heart-With the Save a Monster, Save Myself. Oh, Sam.

what is and What Should Never Be-Oh, Dean (Also, I watch The Forgotten *just* for Michele Borth. I love Carmen and Dean together).

AHBL--a (continued...)


Beverly - Mar 15, 2010 7:20:39 pm PDT #5946 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

( continues...) two-hour episode. My heart, my heart. I don't think I've ever hurt so much over a teevee show.

S3--

A Very Supernatural Christmas-Backstory, weechesters, good monster

DALDOM-backstory on Bobby, Dean's faceoff with himself (when they couldn't get JDM to play that scene with him)

Mystery Spot-Sam goes a little crazy. It was a beautifully realized ep, bonus Speight.

Jus in Belo-Henriksen becomes an ally! I loved the whole process of that, the arming up, the fighting back-to-back. I'm still bitter they killed him off.

Ghostfacers-loved the filming style, loved unraveling the mystery, loved refs to Dean's time running out, his desperation at losing Sam, and that the cameraman--a perfect stranger--felt okay asking, "Is it cancer?"

S4--

Lazarus Rising-the whole thing, plus Castiel's introduction

Are You There God?-wonderful reprise of Ronald, Henriksen, Meg. Genuinely spooky beginning, with Olivia and the other hunters, narrowing in finally on people lost by Bobby and the Winchesters.

In the Beginning-fantastic backstory, wonderful retro take on young John and Mary.

I Know What You Did Last Summer-JP tour de force. We get to know how Sam came apart.

Sex and Violence-Destroying the brothers' relationship one domino after another

When the Levee Breaks-Outstanding JP episode. We get to see inside Sam's head--and it's not all bad choices that's put him in the panic room. Some of it he's had no choice in.

S5--

I'll need to see the whole season before I can decide.


Amy - Mar 16, 2010 5:55:16 am PDT #5947 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, the lip quiver was just as good as I remembered. "Drop the show and be my brother again. 'Cause ... just 'cause."

SAM.

Oh my god, how did I forget the final scene?! Auto shop with Dean! Christ, the look on Sam's face. And Dean's patience, explaining the manifold and the head valve.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2010 6:11:23 am PDT #5948 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, the torture! I can't finish it before tonight. Just the memory of that final scene tears me up.

I was just reading somewhere that Gordon was supposed to be a one off character but the actor impressed enough that they wrote him back in. Glad they did.

Beverly, if the show was supposed to be the Sam Show, what happened? Because when it's not the Sam and Dean Show, it's the Dean Show.


ehab - Mar 16, 2010 6:23:18 am PDT #5949 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

That auto shop scene is another reason this episode is in my top five. Brothers!

I loved Gordon as a character and wish we'd gotten more of him. He was an interesting foil for the boys and while single-minded , righteous, and unforgiving, he wasn't evil exactly.

His behavior was understandable. I hate that he died but I do think the tragedy of his death was deliciously ironic and horrible.


Amy - Mar 16, 2010 6:45:00 am PDT #5950 of 30002
Because books.

I loved that they brought Gordon back. Hendricksen, too. I just wish they could have add a few more recurring characters to the mix.