You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Mar 05, 2010 6:44:26 am PST #5764 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'll have to watch that later today.

My primary takeaway that I forgot about was how damned happy Dean was at the end of the episode. He didn't learn a thing. He goes on to torture Sam next season, obviously, but he was delighted at the excess hunting opportunities and the extended Sammage ahead of him.

Silly man.

JDM was great. Just great. Though I'm wondering if John knew about the deal at the time.


Beverly - Mar 05, 2010 7:24:37 am PST #5765 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I still hold a grudge at Uma Thurman.

See, she broke her arm while fliming A Perfect Husband, with JDM, which delayed filming, which meant that instead of two-three days in Vancouver on set for AHBL2, they filmed him against a green screen and layered him in. There was some glitch with JP's coverage as well, so he did his shots in the John scene on his own, and they layered him in, too. Clusterfuck. I wanted all of them in each other's space for the reunion. Wanted a "Hi, boys," or something. All Uma's fault.

ETA: and irony upon irony, the Husband movie got recut and its release date delayed twice, and finally went straight to dvd.


§ ita § - Mar 05, 2010 7:49:47 am PST #5766 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I liked the silence of the scene, but did think that Sam got short-shrifted.


Lee - Mar 05, 2010 6:26:54 pm PST #5767 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

OH DEAN!


P.M. Marc - Mar 05, 2010 7:23:50 pm PST #5768 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So AfterElton? TOTALLY ships Dean/Castiel [link]


Lee - Mar 06, 2010 5:15:25 am PST #5769 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

ita, didn't you have thoughts on AHBL2 for us?


§ ita § - Mar 06, 2010 6:49:42 am PST #5770 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do, but they're half-baked. I'm going to watch again this morning.

I did go back and read my thoughts the first time it aired, and apparently Dean's smile stuck with me then too. Ah, the things.

I did adore JA losing his neutral accent and sounding totally Texan under the stress of monologuing to Sam's body. So what if it was out of character? It was very endearing.


Amy - Mar 06, 2010 6:52:32 am PST #5771 of 30002
Because books.

It kills me when his Texas slips out there. It does with both of them from time to time, but that scene was just so much more ... heartfelt? because of it. I don't know. It just sounded really, really genuine to me.


§ ita § - Mar 06, 2010 8:58:28 am PST #5772 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Let me start by saying: "Dean. Oh, Dean, oh Dean, oh--Dean."

This episode is one of the brotheringest things in Siblingville, Brotherdom. Obviously there's Dean's torture over and sacrifice for Sam, but I swear I've never heard more little brother in Sam's voice than in this ep.

Watching Dean try and keep him from leaving after the resurrection is quite adorable and fated to failure. But most little-brotherish is Sam's "You did it!" marvelling after Dean's killing the YED. And I really like that they saved the snappy patter for after the kill. That moment needed to be wordless.

I'm most dissatisfied with Jake's conversion. I don't think he and the YED sold that moment well enough for me. Jake was way evil by the time he got to the graveyard. I didn't see where all that happened. I think I needed...well, not more talking on the part of the YED, but perhaps different talking. Cutting to the "and then profit!" part earlier, somehow. Or making it more about giving into the dark side for the benefit of Jake's family.

Dean and Bobby was great--all the big times. The explosion at the start--I'm impressed by the apology. I'm not sure if I would have bothered. It seemed quite excusable at the time. The look on Bobby's face when Sam showed up at the door--keeping Dean's secret, but oh so judging. And then trying to drill home to Dean that he has some worth...which obviously didn't really take. If it ain't about killing demons or saving Sam, Dean still has no point. But cupping his face was touchingly done.

Ellen! "Sh...oot him." Go you.

I'm torn on whether Dean actually heard that Sam would sacrifice for him, but at least I think he heard that Sam loves him above all else. It's a start. I just don't think his world view (at the time, at least) involves Sam sacrificing.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 06, 2010 6:52:20 pm PST #5773 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ellen having more steel in her than any of the guys in that scene was the only thing that made me overlook the cliche of the woman being held hostage.