I was afraid that he was talking to Michael and this was going to be taken as his assent.
The safety there is the Enochian symbols, so hopefully Michael isn't listening at the right times. But who knows what he intended?
You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.
River ,'Objects In Space'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Feb 20, 2010 10:01:32 am PST #5363 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Theresa - Feb 20, 2010 10:05:40 am PST #5364 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
After watching the use of Renegade again, I don't know when I've seen any song used so well.
The reason that I didn't think Dean was talking to God was not knowing if he has ever admitted to the existence of God. He believed in demons before believing in angels. I figured he could believe in Lucifer without believing in God. Has he talked about thinking God would help them?
I keep thinking the first thing that Michael would/should do upon taking possession of Dean's body (and yeah, I'm twelve and went to what I would do with the possession of Dean's body) and I think he would have to kill Sam. That stops Lucifer from finding a permanent vessel, yes?
I have lots of faith in Sera. Actually more faith that the input from Sera, Ben, Jeremy, and others made me like the show despite Kripke. I'm not convinced that he made the show or the brother's dynamic that I love on purpose.
-t - Feb 20, 2010 10:13:32 am PST #5365 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I like the interpretation that what Dean is hungry for is nothingness. Explains him not cruising for lonely women or eating that burger a little bit.
Amy - Feb 20, 2010 10:13:45 am PST #5366 of 30002
Because books.
I was afraid that he was talking to Michael and this was going to be taken as his assent.
This never occurred to me. He said he needed help, he said please, but neither of those is "yes".
The idea that he was talking to his father made me a little misty there for a second.
Beverly - Feb 20, 2010 10:17:58 am PST #5367 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I hadn't seen it put just that way -t, so thank you. Yes, I can certainly see that.
Dean hasn't actually mentioned God, as far as I can remember. He's certainly given every indication he didn't believe in God, heaven, angels, or anything else on the "good" side of mythos up until Castiel's appearance. What I thought, in his Gethsemane moment, was that he was in such extremis he was willing to consider the existence of God, and to turn to him for help, if God was actually there and listening. A last ditch sort of thing. And that may be entirely off-base, but it's what I got from the scene.
Laga - Feb 20, 2010 10:21:07 am PST #5368 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I thought he was talking to god & I didn't understand why D was sitting next to me shouting, "no no NO!" at the teevee until he told me he thought Dean was talking to Michael.
Theresa - Feb 20, 2010 10:21:13 am PST #5369 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
The idea that he was talking to his father made me a little misty there for a second.
It had me crying at the time. Great, now Ima have to watch it again.
I thought he was talking to god & I didn't understand why D was sitting next to me shouting, "no no NO!" at the teevee until he told me he thought Dean was talking to Michael.
eta: I do think it is funny that we have a whole subsection of the fandom that is in essence anti-shipping Michael/Dean. Hee.
Theresa - Feb 20, 2010 10:44:35 am PST #5370 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
cereal:
From the phone call in Home:
"I don’t know what to do. So, whatever you’re doin’, if you could get here. Please. I need your help, Dad."
From My Bloody Valentine:
"Please. I can't. I need some help. Please."
I think him saying "please" and admitting he couldn't do it alone was taking me back to the episode Home. I just don't know because John went off smiling in a white light so maybe he would look up when talking to him.
On the other hand as I watch the end of My Bloody Valentine, I think JA is selling that Dean is talking to God. There is a putting down of the bottle, a glance at the car, a shaking of his head as if he is shaking off the disbelief and then the plea. Honestly I think he was talking to God. In my heart though, he was talking to John.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 20, 2010 11:06:12 am PST #5371 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I have every confidence Cate Blanchett will be able to win them over once she appears...
JenP - Feb 20, 2010 12:30:21 pm PST #5372 of 30002
What I thought, in his Gethsemane moment, was that he was in such extremis he was willing to consider the existence of God, and to turn to him for help, if God was actually there and listening. A last ditch sort of thing. And that may be entirely off-base, but it's what I got from the scene.
That's what I got out of it, too. He was just so tired and utterly defeated and just kind of gave into asking for help from something he'd always maybe been afraid to believe was real, because what if it weren't, or what if it were and there was still no help to be found there.
I take it there was no new ep this past Thurs.?
Also, belated happies, Beverly!