As a data point, my BF and I were talking about the episode, and his opening comment was that he found Anna's arc unsatisfying.
Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple.
Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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DebetEsse - Feb 06, 2010 3:49:10 am PST #5143 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.
§ ita § - Feb 06, 2010 3:57:30 am PST #5144 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I thought we'd get a mini-break for the Olympics, but really? Six weeks??
I know it's a rough show to shoot, and shooting in Vancouver is especially stressful, but, dammit, pace yourselves, people. That's the second unwieldy hiatus.
Everyone's probably off getting married.
sumi - Feb 06, 2010 7:53:45 am PST #5145 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!
§ ita § - Feb 06, 2010 8:28:36 am PST #5146 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Dean is very feminist in that last one.
sumi - Feb 06, 2010 9:05:53 am PST #5147 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!
Hee.
Amy - Feb 06, 2010 4:37:24 pm PST #5148 of 30002
Because books.
They were fun. DEAN. I loved "Are we fighting? Is this a fight?" Goof.
Here's a question: Why didn't we ever learn Anna's angel name? Anna Milton was the name of her human host. But even after she remembered who she was, she was still Anna, and even the other angels call her that.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 06, 2010 4:39:47 pm PST #5149 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Maybe they just like to keep up with the times, what with her mimicking Dean in calling Castiel "Cas" and all?
JenP - Feb 06, 2010 5:05:27 pm PST #5150 of 30002
Loved those clips.
Really liked last ep for the Sam & John and Dean & Mary scenes of heartbreak. Kinda hated watching Sam die. Thought Michael was a little glib overall. I mean, I contrast that with how Castiel was with Dean when they first met.
Loved that they actually talked about their respective vesseldom. And, yes, the angel watching over Sam has to be Castiel, otherwise... shudder. Creepy.
Didn't quite feel the change in Anna. It wasn't fleshed out enough for me.
Juliebird - Feb 06, 2010 5:11:17 pm PST #5151 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
So Michael doesn't give a fig about the Apocalypse or Lucifer being unleashed on the earth. He's letting Lucifer have his chance at his true vessel so he can work out his personal shit? Ick. I just hope that's a character trait we see again, and not a way to justify killing Sam ded and bringing him back (again) from a meta standpoint.
Typo Boy - Feb 06, 2010 8:41:18 pm PST #5152 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
As a data point, my BF and I were talking about the episode, and his opening comment was that he found Anna's arc unsatisfying.
I think the whole "torture changed her viewpoint" thing may be a good excuse but not good storytelling. The writers may have not earned the transformation, even if they have explained it. To clarify this, imagine Bobby had been kidnapped by angels, and come back to kill Sam without caring about collateral damage....
More interesting: so the tortures of hell are just imitations of the tortures heaven uses as standard discipline against angels. From memory (so the quote is probably not exact) "All the pain and twice the self-righteousness." I'd say this is good reinforcement for the "Angels are dicks" meme. Not that the show actually needs to reinforce that at this point.