I will note that I would like them to stop ending episodes with the SamandDean heartfelt conversation wrap-up.

me too. it's predictable at this point.

I'm not surprised by Dean's confession, but dude, that is still hard to hear. Because it's obvious it sickens him, even though after thirty years of torture, there would be a hell of a lot of rage to burn off. And Dean, as I said to Ailleann, had a lot of repressed anger way before Hell.

Yeah, they need to mix it up and put some of the emotional arc in the middle of the episode, instead of bookending.

I've been cuddled up under a blankee for Show, and sat down at my desk and my keyboard keys are *cold*! Bad when you need gloves to type indoors. My desk is in front of a window, and even the curtains don't control all the drafts. We need replacement windows. Like the ones on Roy LeGrange's house! That place really had a makeover, didn't it?

I would like to see the heart to heart moved to another spot in the show, but it's hard to do without slowing momentum and distracting from the story. I'd rather they leave it off for a few episodes and bring it back. It would heighten speculation and some tension about their emotional states if we didn't get weekly updates.

The brother was a complete surprise to me--anybody else have a clue before Danny said, "he"?

Man, this is so not the show I would be watching if I weren't in love with both of the characters and hooked into their lives. To think I clicked away from the pilot because it was to scary.

Still not seeing MBV 3D or F13 in the theatre, though.

I found this to be a very creepy episode because people are creepy.

And uh, also tired of the end of episode conversation - hopefully they will move on it.

Anyone want to lay down the odds that it wasn't Buster next to the bed?

I've done papers on urban legends. No way in hell does a horror show make a big deal about a dog licking someone's hand in a darkened room if it's actually the dog doing the licking.

Huh. I think they just made wincest definitely non-canon.

I missed something, didn't I?

That was gross. Not as gross as Home (the X-Files Home, I mean), though it tried.

I agree that the end conversations are getting predictable, but I don't know if I'd like them to take time out from hunting ghosts/humans/whetever to be emo, then go back to the hunting.

I've done papers on urban legends. No way in hell does a horror show make a big deal about a dog licking someone's hand in a darkened room if it's actually the dog doing the licking.

So true.

That was gross. Not as gross as Home (the X-Files Home, I mean), though it tried.

AHAHAHA!

Okay, you know what is totally hilarious?

I had been thinking of the Benders, right? And I'd MENTALLY INSERTED scenes from that Home into it. Accidentally. Like, I was thinking, "Yeah, Benders was creepy, with that whole mother under the bed and the incest and the mutations."

I need a vacation. My head is crossing things over for me in bad ways.

I will note that I would like them to stop ending episodes with the SamandDean heartfelt conversation wrap-up.

God, yes. It's not that hard to integrate this kind of character development into the show. Especially when the A-plot is something relevant, like, say, people becoming horrible when they've been abused. Duh.

It's boring and it fucks with the pacing, so the story staggers to a halt at the 49 minute mark, and then the viewers who don't care about Dean's Angst wander away.

And yeah, Dean's reaction to the incest does sort of put a little bit of a damper on the whole Wincest thing. Not that he should care, after spending ten years torturing people.

What, exactly, is the state of his soul at the moment, anyway? Is he repentent? Has he been forgiven? He clearly thinks he shouldn't be, but that's not the same thing as penitence. He knows it was wrong, but if he were thrown back in Hell, would he do it again?

Also, these new revelations about Hell make Castiel's early threat about throwing him back rather dodgy in retrospect...