I don't think anyone has been shown as a loser. Stereotypes definitely, but nothing I haven't seen in convention footage.
Nothing I haven't seen at conventions for ANY fandom. Which is part of why I really, really enjoyed this episode.
Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.
'Ariel'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Atropa - Nov 12, 2009 8:05:55 pm PST #4241 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
§ ita § - Nov 12, 2009 8:21:23 pm PST #4242 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Fans saved the day. And gave Dean the speech he needed to hear. I figure Sam and Dean dealt pretty well for being locked up with people impersonating them. I'd have been quailing and hiding.
I didn't feel watch from the hall. I thought it turned out quite fond. Though I'm always startled at the idea fandom that male. But I'm skewed by LJ and here. Boys fan comics. Women fan TV. Can't separate that from the book nature of Supernatural on the show.
P.M. Marc - Nov 12, 2009 8:41:16 pm PST #4243 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I feel like I'm in the minority on my flist NOT being horrifically cranky at the gendered fangirl vs. fanboy thing, but a: I saw girls in drag! b: as someone pointed out in a comment thread, it was mostly a LARP convention c: GAY! GAY! GAY!
§ ita § - Nov 12, 2009 8:54:03 pm PST #4244 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
People are cranky about it? I don't do conventions, but I totally see LARPing a couple guys being predominately (see what I did there?) male. It's just new to me.
P.M. Marc - Nov 12, 2009 8:56:11 pm PST #4245 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Furiously offended, more like.
I dunno. I saw LARPing girls, the bad ghost wasn't the woman, and the gay guys lived! For Supernatural, it's practically progressive!
§ ita § - Nov 12, 2009 9:07:38 pm PST #4246 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
And there was a black guy LARPing too.
Cass - Nov 12, 2009 9:33:27 pm PST #4247 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I saw LARPing girls, the bad ghost wasn't the woman, and the gay guys lived! For Supernatural, it's practically progressive!
As mottsy as I found it, I absolutely have to give you that. They saved people and hunted things. And even felt like a family. Perhaps I might end up liking this ep more than I did on initial watch.
P.M. Marc - Nov 12, 2009 9:41:02 pm PST #4248 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
There was! At least one!
Which is more than I think I saw my whole time LARPing at conventions! (Which are notoriously white and ooky around here.)
I dunno, I think it's possible that my point of entry into fandom was so different than a lot of my media fandom friends that the frame of reference I have is not theirs. I mean, I started going to conventions at 16, almost 20 years ago. Fangirl fandom, which I prefer to the fanboy dominated space, that's only since 2001 for me. The thing is... there are tells, right? And I prefer fangirls, but I was raised by fanboys. All mentors I had as a teen were fanboys, or fangirls in fanboy culture, and I know their ways. Like, the pigtail pulling that's going on? It's not coming from the place of "You weirdos are so weird!" so much as the "I know you are, but what am I? (yeah, fine, I'm one, too!)" place. So other people are seeing it as mean, and I'm seeing it as, "Holy crap, were we at the same [fannish event] or something 15 years ago? We own the same role playing books, don't we?"
aurelia - Nov 12, 2009 9:57:12 pm PST #4249 of 30002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Okay, those little outtakes at the end? ARE THE BEST THINGS!
There were outtakes at the end? How did I miss that?
Theodosia - Nov 13, 2009 3:43:01 am PST #4250 of 30002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
dropping by for a rare appearance....
I loved LOVED that when Real!Sam and Real!Dean "tagged" along on the cemetary expedition they had to go in character as Bobby and Rufus... now that's attention to detail.