Buffy and Angel were relatively light on that--or was I just not looking in the right direction?

I was way too late to Buffy fandom to know/hear anything about that side of it, and I'm glad, I think. I've seen some really crazy, really *mean* stuff out there about the actors, and it often amazes me that these guys still agree to do cons and all.

My exposure to crazy Buffy fandom was mostly as preventative--Allyson wanted us as security so people wouldn't duplicate some of the horrible things that had been done to talent at PBP parties. But push never came to shove when I was around.

I'll never get why some people think it's not only okay to say what they say about other people, but to do what they do to or in front of them.

Tinfoilhattery is why I don't really venture outside of b.org for my show needs.

I was way too late to Buffy fandom to know/hear anything about that side of it, and I'm glad, I think.

I know I'm glad I missed it. I did not know there was such a thing as fandom when I watched Buffy.

Supernatural has taken tinhattery to new and disturbing levels. I cannot look away though. I am guilty of some major rubber-necking.

Sneak Peek.

:puts on educators hat and pulls out pedantic voice::

You can put oil fires out with water. In fact, the Navy fire fighting school teaches you just how to do it. The practice situation they use is a pool of oil under an airplane and they have to continuously feed oil into the pool during the training sim to keep the fire burning or the students would put the fire out before each student had a chance to man each hose position. The fire is actually put out once they stop the flow of oil.

That said, no, water is not the best way to put out an oil fire as the water spreads the oil around and can make the fire spread over a larger area. But, if you have enough of it and it's the only thing you have, use it, don't burn.

That said, no, water is not the best way to put out an oil fire as the water spreads the oil around and can make the fire spread over a larger area. But, if you have enough of it and it's the only thing you have, use it, don't burn.

Well, it seriously depends on the amount of water you have in comparison to the fire. The Mythbusters recently created some terrifying fireballs by dumping water onto burning oil.

The thing that bothered me is that this ep felt like a serious retcon of the trickster. I re-watched the previous 2 trickster eps and while the second one (the one from season 3), one could argue that Gabriel may have behaved in that way, it is unclear why Gabriel would act the way he did the first time around (season 2). I mean, the trickster acted in ways that I would consider "evil" - and yet he is supposed to be an angel?

He's an angel in his own private witness protection program. How that is different from fallen, I don't know.