I was wondering that, too, about Cas' grace. It's still stolen grace so it will still deteriorate, or whatever, right?
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-t - Oct 23, 2014 11:07:11 am PDT #29855 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
§ ita § - Oct 23, 2014 11:31:07 am PDT #29856 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It seems to be being played like this is a fix, not a stopgap, or is it just me getting that feeling? Were there differences in collecting? She was still alive and they just pulled it out, versus taking it from someone dying like before?
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-t - Oct 23, 2014 11:36:43 am PDT #29857 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Yeah, it seemed to be played like a solution, but I don't see how it could be given what little we know. But maybe the live donor thing makes a difference, or just the magic of Crowley, who knows?
Vortex - Oct 26, 2014 3:38:37 pm PDT #29858 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I was thinking that it's like fuel -- you have it until it runs out. So, Cas has about a season's worth of grace.
Although, I don't know why the loss of grace manifests itself as painful. It seems to me that the effect of losing grace is to become more and more human, but that wouldn't be painful. Or maybe that's what happens when the grace is not the owners t /handwavium
Hil R. - Oct 26, 2014 3:56:27 pm PDT #29859 of 30002
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Although, I don't know why the loss of grace manifests itself as painful. It seems to me that the effect of losing grace is to become more and more human, but that wouldn't be painful. Or maybe that's what happens when the grace is not the owners
Maybe just the usual everyday amount of human pain registers as extremely painful to angels who haven't experienced it before?
-t - Oct 26, 2014 3:59:09 pm PDT #29860 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I like that. But I don't think that was where they were going.
Juliebird - Oct 26, 2014 4:29:50 pm PDT #29861 of 30002
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I can't begin to parse it, because I'm so influenced by fic, which basically equated losing grace to becoming more human. Needing sleep, needing to shave, shit, becoming more enslaved to bodily needs. This exhaustion is new and inexplicable to me. It seems like Show is equating "losing one's grace" with dying from sleeplessness (which, now that I think of it, was what Sam almost died of that one time when he was remembering Hell).
§ ita § - Oct 27, 2014 12:20:37 pm PDT #29862 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
We've seen Cas been "simply" human after having had his grace removed, and there was no pain involved. I think this time, the pain, the exhaustion, the dying, was related to how it was acquired.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2014 5:16:30 am PDT #29863 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
For that matter, Metatron talked as if the removal of Cas' grace somehow imbued him with a human soul-the former expected to see the latter again in Heaven after life as a human and hear his stories.
§ ita § - Oct 28, 2014 10:10:03 am PDT #29864 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I wonder if the first time he lost his mojo he was downgraded to a soul in a similar fashion?