Yeah, I think I misheard that -- I thought I heard him say he was back on human blood, but I guess it was the other way around?

I'm already itchy to know what Crowley has in mind. I think his line about "Why set hearts aflutter over mere speculation?" was aimed as much at himself as anyone else -- as in, the idea of the Mark turning Dean into a demon was there, but he wasn't going to count his chickens early.

Full Metal Douche or not, I think Crowley has some geniune affection for both Dean and Sam, though. His relationship with them is as complicated, if not more so, than Meg's was.

Oh! I saw on Tumblr someone saying that Ruby's knife didn't affect Cain (with photos), so what does that mean about the kind of demon Dean is? Or is he just like Cain?

It's going to be a long summer, which is sort of refreshing to say.

Finally got caught up on show and thread. The ending has me intrigued for next season, as it should have. But I want Metatron gone. I'm getting tired of Cas and I used to really like him. I'll have to rewatch to be able to react to more than the last few scenes. Jared knocked it out of the park holding Dean as he died. Again...how many times has he done that and yet this still grabbed me.

With Cas losing his grace and Crowley back on human blood - are they both going to turn human?

(A) there was a lot I really liked about this finale, despite my problems with some of the underlying axioms. Sam in particular was wonderful.

(B) I'm guessing when Crowley mentioned Brentwood he didn't mean the city near me, but a guy just got arrested there for selling meth out of his ice cream truck, which does seem like something a demon might get up to...

I assumed Brentwood meant the city near me, which is meta-snotty.

I think Crowley has some geniune affection for both Dean and Sam, though. His relationship with them is as complicated, if not more so, than Meg's was.

I think their relationship is complicated because of history, but not affection. I think Meg was more of a natural aberration than Crowley, who I think is a supreme opportunist and doesn't think being evil has to get in the way of that.

Of course that doesn't count the blood, and that could turn out to be a factor any time the writers want it to.

Yeah, that's the Brentwood I figured he meant, but then I saw the meth ice cream truck headline today and wanted an excuse to bring it up in conversation.

Crowley makes so little sense to me anymore, I have no idea.

Maybe affection is the wrong word. I think he's sort of fascinated by them, though. And if they were suddenly gone, I think he would miss them, or at least having them to torment.

I guess it's Cas' angelic essence being stolen from another angel that makes its eventual loss fatal? In Season 5 he was just left alive and more or less human once it evaporated.

Or maybe Metatron was referring to an inevitable human death 40 or 50 years down the line (quelle horreur!) rather than an immediate consequence?

I think they said it would burn him out. And it's not self-sustaining, like everyone else's natural grace is.

And if they were suddenly gone, I think he would miss them, or at least having them to torment.

This I can see. I miss the Crowley that thought they were a threat, but making Dean his pet is something Alistair failed at, so go him.

orange-crushed is a thoughtful (D/C, rarely explicit) writer, and Fata Morgana has a Dean as King of Hell and Castiel with an unexpected travelling partner to try and rescue him. I'd recommend it based on the imagery alone.

Can someone write me a story? It's not exactly MPREG, but make the assumption that angels are beings made of love and devotion, and Castiel's extra love and devotion--maybe it's like a grain of sand that makes a pearl, except the pearl is a new angel.

Except he keeps loving and being devoted to Dean, so he keeps popping new angels like peas squeezing out of a pod, and it takes Dean working it out to stabilise the situation, many angels later.

Yes, that is crack I'd laugh at.

Also, I'm bored.