My god...he's gonna do the whole speech.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Morgana - Mar 27, 2014 12:59:28 am PDT #29487 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I was just remembering loner, drifter, ceiling-pipe-pullups soulless Sam.

And I thank you for that reminder.


sumi - Mar 27, 2014 11:06:19 am PDT #29488 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

I loved the exorcism app myself.


Marcia - Mar 28, 2014 12:40:14 pm PDT #29489 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I don't buy the addiction thing either; more a spell. But seemingly one he can wrest himself from, for now at least. I'm kind of fascinated by where this is going. And, yes, Sam was nine kinds of awesome in this episode. :)


Amy - Mar 31, 2014 6:01:08 pm PDT #29490 of 30002
Because books.

I read a theory the other day (today?) from Nightsky, who writes something called Threads after each other episode. She's positing that Dean is essentially becoming soulless himself, that the blade is eating away at his humanity, etc.

It seems very "been there, done that" to me, if that's the case.


Typo Boy - Apr 01, 2014 10:54:05 pm PDT #29491 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Unless the blade is Stormbringer.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2014 11:23:05 am PDT #29492 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't really see anything to support the soulless theory--he has too many emotions and isn't displaying lack of ethics or a moral compass.

Becoming ruthless (and they still had to have the "Oh, we kill Crowley too" conversation, so he's not KILL ALL THE THINGS) doesn't feel like enough--it's their job to prove he's different from Sam in season 4 + Dean in late season 5, but Sam in season 6 I just don't get.

They've made it difficult by further muddying the waters of what having a soul means, but he's not all id (did I get that right? I usually get that wrong) and is very thoughtful.

I did like a lot, muddy as it was, the difference between Soulless Sam and soulless everyone else (thanks to John and Dean, I suppose).

If I had to pick, he's more like Famine!Dean with one motive. I still don't know if the kill in #Thinman was supposed to be mark-related or getting-business-done-related. Haven't made my mind up on it yet.

As much as some Sam stans complain that everything is through a Dean prism, we're a lot in the dark about his internals right now.


Amy - Apr 02, 2014 11:50:57 am PDT #29493 of 30002
Because books.

I don't necessarily buy the soulless theory -- in fact, I hope they don't go that way. I don't think giving Dean a rerun of one of Sam's issues is really worthy plot or character development.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2014 1:14:21 pm PDT #29494 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not that I think that they are, but I don't mind them re-using crises if the responses are different. There are only so many crises to go around.

"I have been shaped into an paranormal weapon" is something I'm good with so far. I'll worry about the rest when it happens. It's more interesting in the present and past tense to me.


Amy - Apr 11, 2014 3:27:52 am PDT #29495 of 30002
Because books.

Excellent fic that addresses S9 and makes me happy: [link]


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2014 4:56:38 am PDT #29496 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Roque has a delight in permanently maimed Dean that puts me off her stories.

Is it the sort of story that someone who's enjoying the season would like, she asks theoretically.