I feel like I was willing to handwave a lot of angel inconsistencies when I thought it they were only the temporary focus, but now ... I'm tired, too. I also don't like that it's conveniently flexible, because they change it to suit the story whenever they like.

Yeah, I want the angels gone. Castiel can stay if they like, but I'm tired of the rest of them. To tell you the truth I'm tried of large scale threats. Someone who is out to get the Winchesters or Jody, and gets thwarted with great difficulty is high enough stakes. And might make for more interesting plot lines.

Well. That was all fucked up.

I see my instincts were on the ball. I don't think I can ever go to a convention where the hack twins (or Robert Singer for that matter) are in attendance for fear of not being able to hold my tongue about my feelings.

Isn't Gadriel more of a King Arthur kind of name than an angelic kind of name?

Someone on LJ pointed out that if you go to wikipedia and put "Gadriel" in the search field, the results are rather... surprising.

Sign me up for being done with the angel plotline.

I saw that, Anne. Someone said it's supposed to be Gadreel?

Someone on Tumblr also pointed out that this means Sam will eventually realize he killed Kevin, which is awful. And where is Sam exactly? What did he mean by "Sam is gone"?

Also, and unrelatedly, Jared and Stephen Amell from Arrow were tweeting with Jensen during the West Coast airing, and they said more than once, "Nice button, Jensen." What does that mean?

I don't like it when my show makes me this grumpy. Not that I'll stop watching, but still.

I started the episode irritated because the previouslies included that Metatron = scribe of God and that just bugs me beyond all reason. SPN theology has never really made sense to me, but it just keeps getting muddier.

Which reminds me - Metatron saying he wants funny angels around = he's gonna find some way to bring back Uriel? This thought probably brought to you by (a) they killed Kevin! Bastards! and (b) Sam can't really be gone, because.

I just saw Uriel! On ... some other show.

This plot turn makes it a little more understandable that the Js wanted to talk the writers. I don't necessarily want either Sam or Dean to do horrible things and have awful conflicts, but since that's the nature of Show, why not give Dean a turn? He's turning into either the boy who lied or the boy who cried, and not much else.

He's been in a bunch of stuff lately, seems like, although I always think of him as Bunny first and then Uriel.

I wish I could be more coherent about my objections to this episode. Maybe by January I'll have sorted it out.

That's my problem, -t. The whole thing just felt WRONG. And not because I was upset that they killed Kevin, although I am, but because it felt ... like a bad angel soap opera or something. It didn't feel like SHOW.