I'd have to rewatch, but . . . I never got the warm fuzzies from that, more of a tough-love "we need our tool functional" vibe. Maybe it's just that I never warmed to Kevin that I don't buy that the Winchester's did.
Stop that right now! I can hear the smacking!
Giles ,'Never Leave Me'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Juliebird - Oct 15, 2013 5:21:35 pm PDT #29044 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Amy - Oct 15, 2013 5:24:16 pm PDT #29045 of 30002
Because books.
I don't think they deny how important his role is, but I never felt they treated him like a tool.
I also don't think you have to get the warm-fuzzies from their interactions to get that they're committed to him as one of their own. Neither Dean or Sam is particularly sappy, even with each other.
§ ita § - Oct 15, 2013 6:15:58 pm PDT #29046 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think that Crowley was telling a very important emotional truth to Kevin, but Dean was telling a more important one. And without Sam!
Which he probably thinks he has to, because...Zeke. And stuff. And betrayal. But hey! Get out of hell free card!
Everyone's doing a great job (well, the extra hunters were irrelevant). Huffman, Chau, Shepard--all great tonight, but J2 knocked it out of the park.
When Dean asked if Sam would come with him into the trap and Sam was basically "Hell's yeah!" I got one of those wibbly feelings in my stomach that I love fiction to give me.
Thanks show!
P.M. Marc - Oct 16, 2013 6:41:15 am PDT #29047 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think if Dean had his way, he'd be adopting stray hunter children left and right.
With the occasional vampire and fallen angel, depending.
Amy - Oct 16, 2013 1:09:56 pm PDT #29048 of 30002
Because books.
I think Dean used to deny his fatherly instincts out of habit, but since Ben I think he's really afraid to get that close again. He treats Charlie and Kevin and Cas much more as siblings.
-t - Oct 16, 2013 5:08:53 pm PDT #29049 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Sam saying this is the happiest he's felt in forever troubles me a great deal.
Amy - Oct 16, 2013 5:15:02 pm PDT #29050 of 30002
Because books.
It seems out of character for him to gloss over the time he spent with Amelia like that. Even if he would believes they're better off apart, or that his place is really with Dean, it still struck me as odd that he didn't acknowledge that.
Which makes me think the writers are trying to skirt that issue.
I do get the feeling that Sam's happiness is going to have repercussions.
§ ita § - Oct 16, 2013 5:15:14 pm PDT #29051 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm really surprised by commentators I see voicing things like:
The boys are HAPPY right now and communicating... I DON'T TRUST IT.
Either Jensen needs acting lessons or some folks need new TVs. Or glasses. I mean...what is happening on their show?
Amy - Oct 16, 2013 5:19:31 pm PDT #29052 of 30002
Because books.
Yeah, Dean is all angst right now. So, business as usual.
-t - Oct 16, 2013 5:34:25 pm PDT #29053 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I have a feeling Ezekiel is sincerely healing Sam, but having some unintended side-effects.