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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2013 7:18:02 am PDT #28640 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's on.

I just had a flash of inspiration for a drawing when I read your post, and I think it's just the ticket to ease myself down with after my current deadline is met.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 7:26:41 am PDT #28641 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, what's your idea?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2013 8:20:18 am PDT #28642 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Symbolic image of a drowning Kevin underwater, lit by shining beams of light from above, trying to cut apron strings that are strangling him with a slide rule. Ghosted faces of Dick Roman, Crowley, and the Winchesters in the background, border of stone tablets and Da Vinci's Demons-style geometrical lines.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 8:26:21 am PDT #28643 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like the equation of the Winchesters with the evil in his life.

I've only drawn him once. He doesn't come to mind visually (well, I do have a recurring visual of Meg babysitting him, and subsequent exasperation--I'd say it's a shame we never got to see friction or synergy with him and Garth, except a) I don't like Garth and b) I like Qualls much better on Jefferies show. Still, him and whoever is watching him would be great.) often for me.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2013 9:04:07 am PDT #28644 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I was thinking pressure/responsibility more than evil per se , but I think they contribute about as much to his stress as the villains.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 10:29:54 am PDT #28645 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They all fucked his life up, no matter how lofty their motives.


Vortex - Jul 15, 2013 5:54:57 pm PDT #28646 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

No Mama Tran? If you're talking about stress, I think that she was a bit of a contributor. Not that I didn't love her.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 6:05:34 pm PDT #28647 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm assuming the apron strings allude to her, but I wouldn't line her up with the other stressors myself either. It's a different impact, and I think putting the Winchesters side by side with demon and Leviathan is telling in a different way from apron strings.

eta: IO9 has an article about lovable characters that became jerks, and I stayed long enough for the Castiel mention and will rebut that as long as they engage me. I was really looking for a John mention. But it was swiftly followed by Sam and Dean, and I'm out.


Juliebird - Jul 15, 2013 6:14:26 pm PDT #28648 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

But but but, Cas started out as a jerk! Actually, at some point in his first season he became a loveable jerk, which then retroactively applied to his first appearance.

And then he became adorkable and the butt of jokes and became extra tragic and frustrating, but I don't think I'd quantify his various betrayals of Dean as "becoming a jerk". He became megalomaniacal for all of three minutes before disappearing. And then he was sad and crazy and repentant.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 6:34:07 pm PDT #28649 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The article was not an article, to be accurate--it was a picture of Buffy and a request for people to submit their candidates.

Most of the Cas complainers were non-sustaining, which is why I picked that fight. If you want Cas to be always powered up, in every episode, on the boys' side all the time, and you think he was ruined after season five, then a) you plot out the subsequent seasons without being cancelled and b) you convince father of two small kids to take that job for how little you can afford to pay him.

I'm not getting into Sam or Dean fights, but f they want to say John started out lovable I will go to the mat on that one too.