Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!

'Shindig'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Amy - May 22, 2013 8:13:38 am PDT #28426 of 30002
Because books.

They put Grimm on at 10 p.m. on Tuesdays the last few weeks, after Smash got cancelled. I had it on last night, although I had no idea what was going on.

I heard about Supernatural moving the same day as the finale, I thought. And doesn't think move them back to their original time slot? Or were they Tuesdays at 8 p.m.?


§ ita § - May 23, 2013 6:45:24 am PDT #28427 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't understand why people need to go here, about the "What show have you been watching?" line:

Now, it could have been an ad libbed scene Jensen and/or Misha threw in there for comedic enjoyment. If it’s not, then put together with Dean’s differing reactions to Cas’ vs. Sam’s predicaments and his statement to Sam that he always comes first, this little sentence just drives the point home. Moreover, it’s said by Dean to Cas and well, to me, that means it was directed at a certain audience. Together it all reads, make no mistake, this show is about two brothers and their devotion to one another (throw in a comedic ‘Destiel parallel’).

Yes, Dean is hysterical at the thought of Sam dying, and will do anything to stop it, repeatedly. Yes, he responds to the premise of Cas leaving forever with nothing more than a resigned nod. So? At what point did anyone thing those reactions would be reversed? Dean has done his share of pleading to Cas, but it's never going to be like razing the earth to keep his brother alive. Duh. Show.

But the poster's suggestion that this is meta telling Destiel shippers to stick it up their own asses is both reaching and petty. How does that line even relate to him leaving except in your punitive little mind? Destiel is already never going to happen. That's fine. But now there's some sort of fan competition to see who's getting rebuffed the hardest between the lines?

Grow up and enjoy a narrative, for god's sake.


Amy - May 23, 2013 7:55:21 am PDT #28428 of 30002
Because books.

What I love is that certain fan types (as above) really believe everything in a script is some kind of coded, yet direct, message right to them.

Yeah, probably not, guys.

Also, Dean was talking about drinking on the job. Stick to the subject at hand, for god's sake.


§ ita § - May 23, 2013 2:39:00 pm PDT #28429 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Now, if Dean had taken a break from eating Sam out (originally I typed "seating"--I can't even type Wincest) to say that, I can see where you might want to gloat a bit. Otherwise? There is no fictional ship high ground, peeps. We're all never gonna get (never get it...thank you, En Vogue).

Vulture magazine reported on the sad state of 2012-2013 television. Most shows dropped a decent percentage of their Nielsen numbers.

But not Show! In season fucking gr8, we gained 22%, which is the biggest gain of any network show. Of course, a percentage of a small number is a small number, but still! It's a positive number, unlike most. I do want to give Sera a hug, because no doubt people are calling this proof she sucks--maybe it is proof! But I liked it, and I will still be her BFF.


Amy - May 23, 2013 2:59:07 pm PDT #28430 of 30002
Because books.

I was just coming to post that! It's very cool.

I'll give Sera a hug anytime. She loved the boys very much, if not always very well.


le nubian - May 23, 2013 3:56:35 pm PDT #28431 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita, you are a trip.


Amy - May 28, 2013 1:05:51 pm PDT #28432 of 30002
Because books.

Failed SPN episode pitches. There are some true gems here.

Earlier, Robbie pitched Sam and Dean washing the car, wet. For the whole episode. ::nods::


Amy - May 28, 2013 5:37:08 pm PDT #28433 of 30002
Because books.

This is a really interesting take on S8.

This especially:

I've always seen "Supernatural" as a story about Sam, told from Dean's perspective. The audience lives in Dean's head, we feel his connections with secondary characters and understand his pain and frustration. Sam, on the other hand, keeps secrets from the audience, reveals himself only in fits and starts. The audience learns about Sam only as Dean does.

Sam has always been doomed, marked, tarnished. And Dean has always been the guy who pulls Sam out of fires. Sam's story is about evil. Dean's story is about Sam.


§ ita § - May 28, 2013 6:17:34 pm PDT #28434 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dean has kept secrets from the audience too--I don't know if that's an important thing about Sam. But SPN being a story about Sam as told by Dean? I've definitely argued that point. That's why it can't work with just one of them. Dean needs something to react to (Sam's action) and the audience needs a framework for reacting to Sam (Dean's personality).

And it's always why Bobby/Ruby/Castiel will always be a third wheel to the core story. That in no way means they are unwelcome additions to the narrative, but it does mean they are only guests to the party. They're neither throwing it nor is it in their honour.


Morgana - May 29, 2013 9:01:47 pm PDT #28435 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

ita, is it you who has an amazingly complete recall of every Jensen picture ever published? Someone over on LJ has linked to a site saying "one of the sites I check out from time to time- the owner has gone to the trouble of collecting all the pics together she had and uploading them." I didn't personally test the links, but maybe there's something there you don't already have?