Gunn: We open a can of Machiavelli on his ass. Harmony: It's Matchabelli, Einstein, and it doesn't come in a can.

'Soul Purpose'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Mar 16, 2013 12:57:34 pm PDT #27946 of 30002
Because books.

That does sound good.

I've been reading some old favorites in lean times, but I also get more variety than you do because I'll read RPF, too. On the other hand, I'm also reading more books lately, which I've actually been enjoying, so if there's no good fic one night, I usually read one of the books instead.


Morgana - Mar 16, 2013 5:33:05 pm PDT #27947 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Does Dean get femmed up a lot in Wincest?

I read Wincest almost exclusively and the only times I've ever seen Dean get femmed up were when it was done deliberately as a kink (as in times he dresses in women's underwear, or some such, for those in the mood to read kink). The issue of topping doesn't have anything to do with it.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2013 7:18:35 pm PDT #27948 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, apart from the inciting incident, which is much of why we've shown up, what are the likely alterations made to canon? Too often Dean blames John for his internal homophobia, but mostly he's close to canon--it's easy enough. Getting Castiel to a sexual place--we have been shown it's possible onscreen, but who knows how it would play out?

There are some very standard notes that I like/don't mind: Dean doesn't believe he gets nice things, the sacrifices Cas would have to make to be with him are more than he can ask for, and fairly often he likes that Cas is a badass--those are the stories I like. Cas doesn't believe this should be such an issue, either for Dean of for two men displaying physical connections in the middle of Main Street. And if he had to give things up, it's worth it.

I do wonder if a "all I've been is an angel--I've seen more than most angels have seen, and definitely felt more than most of them" Cas who is caught in the orbit of Dean (as canon), but then decides he wants both more from him, but not to lose his essential self. Or how Dean copes with him having heavenly requirements. Those seem to have petered out since he's not Sheriff and with the whole Naomi control.


Amy - Mar 17, 2013 8:42:41 am PDT #27949 of 30002
Because books.

So, apart from the inciting incident, which is much of why we've shown up, what are the likely alterations made to canon?

In fic, you mean? Where authors taken canon and rework for another plausible outcome?


§ ita § - Mar 17, 2013 8:54:20 am PDT #27950 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Looking back on the post, that's a really long sentence for "fanon" or "head canon".

But does it make sense, looking for the things they alter apart from the big 2: a) getting your ship into bed and b) the basic AU premise (college, cop, angels are slaves, etc)?

I hate the "John made Dean homophobic" trope, unsurprisingly. And it's really often written off--which is my beef--it's not played like a change from canon, but more as "you know John, he'd never have stood for that" like we'd been shown this even vaguely clearly.

I just feel...in a well drawn fic, you should be able to tell what the author's deliberately changing, and what s/he just believes about the characters. And the latter irritates me as often as not.


Amy - Mar 17, 2013 8:59:45 am PDT #27951 of 30002
Because books.

in a well drawn fic, you should be able to tell what the author's deliberately changing, and what s/he just believes about the characters

I get it. For me, the stuff I think the author just believes are things like Jessica being an artist (I'm not even sure how that became fanon, but it seems to be), and John drinking a lot. I'd have to think about it more, though.


§ ita § - Mar 17, 2013 2:17:43 pm PDT #27952 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was literally shouting out Bobby's name. He was the only one who could save them.

My sister sends me one email per episode, title S02E13, etc as appropriate, and she asterisks or double asterisks to show how much she liked it. Sex and Violence was a two star episode, even though she's turned into a "when does Cas come back???" fan (I swear, that's not my fault--but I do wonder if you a) marathon the series and b) like Cas it does more easily seem like you really need him more--whereas us (true believers...coughcough) who spent years without him can like him more easily without needing).

The whole impact of the choice the siren made, the fight between Sam and Dean...she was totally into it.

And for some reason I actually typed the words "I thought he was faithful to Ruby"...I have no idea why I thought he'd have only slept with her in S4--it's impossible to forget Cara or the episode she appeared in and the context for the strain on their relationship. Felt weird. Maybe the Ruby bang is contaminating me.


Amy - Mar 19, 2013 5:57:13 am PDT #27953 of 30002
Because books.

It's the little Padalecki's first birthday today! Wow, that went quick.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2013 9:42:17 am PDT #27954 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm a little startled by that! And is Misha keeping Maison more under wraps than West was? Memory is hard.

Russ Hamilton tweets to Tumblr Nation about 8x22: [link] -- our reaction will be to [VERB] [ADVERBLY].


Amy - Mar 20, 2013 8:43:03 am PDT #27955 of 30002
Because books.

Yikes. They're such teases now. We've encouraged them to interact too much, I think.

Show tonight! Very relieved.