Saffron: You won't tell anyone about me breaking down? Mal: I won't. Saffron: Then I won't tell anyone how easily I got your gun out of your holster. Mal: I'll take that as a kindness.

'Trash'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Feb 21, 2013 2:14:35 pm PST #27715 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For the record, my little sister would probably have levied the same accusation at me, and somehow failed to understand the specific kind of idiot I was being in a real-world-sized equivalent situation. That and Dean's witch hypocrisy I see as long-standing character notes which are going to take more than one disappointing episode to get past.

I swear--I've been avoiding IO9 reviews because she's been disliking it, and now she says she loved this week, and I'm all WTF idjit! on her.

Thanks to your mention, Amy, I noticed the same team wrote Route 666, and I think that's about the point where I throw my hands up in defeat--no matter how many not awful (I liked A Little Slice of Kevin, for instance) episodes they do, that does mean they're responsible for my least watchable episode, so...maybe I was lucky to have liked some of it.

And I can't help but think the writers room takes responsibility for some of what annoys me, not just the people with their names on the script.


Amy - Feb 21, 2013 2:27:45 pm PST #27716 of 30002
Because books.

And I can't help but think the writers room takes responsibility for some of what annoys me, not just the people with their names on the script.

Oh, absolutely. No one is handing in a script without a story approved (and most likely assigned) first. Still, it's always my instinct to blame the writer first, and I would imagine a lot of it is this team's doing -- like the questionable jokes, the poor characterization.

I saw that they had written more decent episodes than I thought, but I still don't like them. Sorry, Bob.


Typo Boy - Feb 21, 2013 2:28:46 pm PST #27717 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I wasn't even thinking about hypocrisy. I'm just trying to figure out what makes a witch in the SPN verse. It can't just be knowing spells, because lots of people who are not witches know spells... So where is the line between "knows spells" and "witch"? Or is it one of those things that has never been explicitly defined?


Juliebird - Feb 21, 2013 2:30:30 pm PST #27718 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Maybe being a witch is being able to do stuff like snap peoples necks with a hand guesture and the power of your mind? That it's not just getting the ingredients and saying the right words, but somehow harnessing power into yourself to use at will?


Amy - Feb 21, 2013 2:33:28 pm PST #27719 of 30002
Because books.

I don't think it's "being" a witch so much as actively joining a group of them that set these witches apart. They were part of a community.


Amy - Feb 21, 2013 2:50:03 pm PST #27720 of 30002
Because books.

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we appreciate your enthusiasm for the return of castiel #spn but please stop sending feathers as some people, including myself are allergic.

Oh, people. It's not up to you if Cas comes back. Deal with it.


§ ita § - Feb 21, 2013 4:55:48 pm PST #27721 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Drawing your power from a demonic source seems like a good place to start. But my point was that there doesn't have to be a consistent dividing line, since it would be entirely in character for Dean to judge other people's spellcasting more negatively than his own. The whole "partners with Crowley" thing underlined that a few times.

It's not up to you if Cas comes back

Seriously. I already typed out the "Does anyone have a link to where Misha said sincerely he wanted more work?" reply to a related tumblr post, but I did end up hitting cancel on that one. But, seriously--why is his employ their problem?

Then again, I refuse to believe the person who said it was sad that there were Dean fans and Cas fans, but so few Sam fans (or insert actors instead--it was blurry). That really has to be the result of isolating yourself in fandom. I refuse to believe that Sam (and Jared) has fewer fans than Cas, whether you count people who quit watching (aka the D/C or Casgirls who thought S6 ruined him and their ship) or just the current watchers.


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 10:34:10 am PST #27722 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know they've done it before, but the volume of this [link] worries me.


Amy - Feb 22, 2013 10:48:16 am PST #27723 of 30002
Because books.

I know! It's so many now, and it's the only season where they've done this.

Unless it's a weird callback to the show's history? Carver's way of honoring the seasons before his reign began?

Or they're just totally fucking with us. Which is entirely possible.


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 10:50:34 am PST #27724 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Apparently one or more of the writers has tweeted that tumblr should be informed that .19 and .20 are aMAzing. Which sets off another huge bout of worry. They're all a bunch of shits, and I don't trust their definitions.

Don't trust them at all. Why is TV fandom this peculiar Stockholm syndrome thing?