I would punch people in the throat for an opportunity to overhear those writer shenanigans.

I keep trying to convince Colin to get his ass up there, but he says they don't need any more pretty. To which I replied a) no such thing as too much and b) don't flatter yourself.

Anyway--still on the tip of Garth, and how we almost didn't get to see him (he was killed ofscreen before he even appeared, and Sera said NOOOOOOOOOOOO) from the writing point of view: [link] and from qualls: [link]

Called my mgr and asked if these guys were models who chase monsters. And if so, what so they want w/me?

I wanted to quit the show for a minute. I talked to @jarpad about it and he was like Welcome to #spn. We all get both extremes

Speaking of which, this just floated across my dash:

Since in this interview it looks like writers are dealing with the “Cas is so powerful we dunno what to do with him and human are better” panic attack… haters are tweeting their Cas hate to Adam Glass, Robbie Thompson and [...] Loflin.

Anyone have any of these guys followed and know what this really is?

Not that I know anything about writing for teevee, but if I was worried about Cas being too powerful, and wanted to keep the character around because of popularity, I'd turn that boy human stat.

I'm hoping we get to see that in canon one of these years. They could even make him an angel again if the plot warranted it. For angst or a climatic battle. Something a little better than they did with Daphne.

I'm a little (a lot) miffed at that interview where it is stated that they are getting back to the roots of the show, by which they mean Season 4, with the introduction of angels as well as demons. Um, that's not the beginning in terms of viewing pleasure. In retcon, sure, but not in chronological viewing; what hooked your audience for the first three seasons. Saying your roots are the midpoint thus far is kinda cracked.

I'm trying to decide if having a fairly depowered Cas with random flares of power would have worked better than a fully powered Cas with random shoehorned handicaps. I think the former might have called for more B plot, which might have been too much for the show, but I'm not that clever.

I haven't been on Twitter in hours, so I have no idea. (Ooops.)

Also, angels are part of the original mythology if you believe Kripke had a five-season plan.

Not that I know anything about writing for teevee, but if I was worried about Cas being too powerful, and wanted to keep the character around because of popularity, I'd turn that boy human stat.

I prefer what they're doing, keeping Cas an otherworldly presence that's (theoretically) as powerful as ever, but so damaged/unstable that there's a good justification for him not being the show's deus ex machina.

I don't know what Kripke's plan was, if it succeeded, or if that plan went off the rails. All I know about roots is what I saw, which was boogeymen and ghost and eventually demons. Angels were a brand new thing (in actuality, not fake angels) starting season four. We're in season eight. That is not a root, creator's intentions or not. And I'm vehemently going with Or Not. Because unless the creators intentions show on the screen, it's just a lonely fantasy in a dark room for that creator. Intentions aren't doing or being.

And for me, if you say "roots", season 2 doesn't count. Season one is for the roots to grow, season 2 is for the plant to creep (all those new branches and leaves), and third to leap (holy crud! branches upon branches!). If the roots haven't anchored into the soil by the second season, the plant is dead, even if it doesn't know it yet. Unless it's that dogwood that hasn't flowered in five years and you have to beat it with a shovel and threaten it with death before it says "Fuck! I'm going to die! Let's make baybees!".

Um...

I don't look at it the same way, but I guess my question is, do you care that Cas is still a character? Or Naomi? I'm not sure if you're irritated because you don't see angels as part of the roots of the show, or because you don't like them.

I lurves the angels, but I don't see them, as a manifistation halfway through the series thus far, as being "roots".

I'm only irritated at the semantics, not what is canon throughout all the seasons.

Brothers, urban legends, Yellow Eyes, that I see as "roots".

At least as far as I use the metaphor, the roots are the underpinnings that sustain the story--like foundations, but with the extra oomph of nourishment.

So it doesn't, to me, have to be the beginning. But it is one of the core parts of the mythos, and developing the core mythos took four seasons. I don't think there's any virtue or inherent benefit to the narrative to consider only S1 as the basis on which everything else is built--in fact, the scattered urban legends of different cultures lacks a coherency which I think a show definitely needs by season 8. Urban legends don't hold together, and Yellow Eyes didn't even have a good plan in season 1.

So I'm not mad because that's what they're returning to, and I'm not mad because that's not what "roots" mean--if you take the term literally, you do have roots younger than visible parts of the plant-as the plant grows bigger, it needs more roots to sustain it.

I'd turn that boy human stat.

I hope they don't do that before the end of the series. I don't think he's interesting enough a recurring character for that. What's he going to do? Hang out with Garth? Do the chores at the Batcave? An angel with other business, or problems that angels can't solve works better for me than adding another human to the story. The idea that the supernatural isn't just what they fight, but it's an integral enough part of the world that it's on their side again I find valuable to the richness of the stories. And uses Misha better too.

I just stumbled across some really well drawn genderbent TFW (http://gingerhaole.tumblr.com/tagged/genderbend), but I realise I don't understand why Samantha and Deanna are usually both tomboys. Why doesn't either of their masculinity get transformed to femininity? I can see narrative reasons for Deanna to be boyish, but why isn't Samantha wearing a blouse instead of a flannel shirt? You can still gank ghosts in a blouse.