It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Morgana - Jan 30, 2013 5:00:54 pm PST #27433 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

But seriously: the Winchesters are wizards???

There were bits that I outright enjoyed (anticipating the reaction to damage to the Impala, for example), but on the whole I think at the moment I'm still at the "hmmmmmmm...." stage and I need to mull all the implications over.


sumi - Jan 30, 2013 5:03:34 pm PST #27434 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Henry - went to Hogwarts. . .


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 30, 2013 5:08:08 pm PST #27435 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I should have just stayed at work later and made more headway on all the drawing I'm going to have to do tomorrow.


Amy - Jan 30, 2013 5:21:23 pm PST #27436 of 30002
Because books.

I don't think they're wizards any more than Sam or Dean are when they perform a spell. He, and the other Men of Letters, were simply trained to use all the magic extant in the world.

I think it makes a lot of sense when you add Cupid's part to it. And the whole thing struck me as very bittersweet.


Vortex - Jan 30, 2013 5:41:45 pm PST #27437 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And oh, the whole Campbell/Winchester; Brains/Brawn; Sam/Dean thing.

I'll take brawn anytime. I have friends to talk to.


Amy - Jan 30, 2013 5:49:35 pm PST #27438 of 30002
Because books.

Exactly, Vortex. I loved seeing where Sam might have gotten his intellectual curiosity from. As well as the Major Puppy eyes of Compassion and Understanding.

Growly, cranky Dean is one of my favorites, though. I also loved him checking out the girl in the comic store, although I would have been awesome if when Adabon looked through her eyes, there was a nice shot of Dean's ass or something.


sumi - Jan 30, 2013 6:01:00 pm PST #27439 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

I would have been awesome if when Adabon looked through her eyes, there was a nice shot of Dean's ass or something.

That would only have been in the spirit of true realism.


§ ita § - Jan 30, 2013 6:24:23 pm PST #27440 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's code for not liking it, Matt?

I was sceptical from the trailer when I thought the Winchesters were hunters too. That was...too too. There wasn't really anything else they could be without having powers (which I think it's important they do not) that keepers of the lore. And John was obviously his own brand of scholar of the dark things, as well as an analyst that impressed Ash.

It's clearly a retcon, but not a particularly bendy one.

Basically, this episode was a love letter to John, and I am all over that shit.

Lots of random scattered thoughts--it was a very emotional episode from the start of those previouslies, man--damn. That was a hell of a road so far--saving people, hunting things? Old and comfortable.

I did like it quite a lot, but motherfuckers--Castiel does not come up? And whose angel feathers do you have in your asstrunk, Dean? A counted number of them? I felt like the previously pulled up a lot of memories, but all they said in their defence was calling out one apocalypse? Lucifer comes up, you...okay, maybe you don't want to mention that Heaven and Hell alike wanted those kids born so they could play out their family drama holding the earth hostage.

But the biggest baddest non-Lucy demon shows up, and no Castiel mention at all? Would trying and failing to get him have been too much? I'm not being all "But they're best friends!" shippery about this--it's just that they're doing JudeoChristian things...it just seems like you have to explain why he's not part of the episode--the plot perfectly excuses him from appearing, so that wouldn't be awkward.

Random jumbled thoughts. I did run out and grab supernaturalmotherlode.tumblr.com, which will now sit and gather dust for eternity. I just liked how it sounded...


-t - Jan 30, 2013 9:15:08 pm PST #27441 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, Winchesters. Tragic like the Atreides.

That's really all I have. I really liked this episode, but it was so sad.


§ ita § - Jan 31, 2013 7:09:49 am PST #27442 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was sad up and down sad. Except for the great about John bits. Which then made me sad he is dead. But it would be nice if they could go back in time and visit him, tell him the truth, and then wipe his memory.

By nice I mean unutterably cruel, but in a way that I like.

I am putting "Men of Letters" on my to be continued list for this season. They have to investigate a possible source of information like this (especially as Legacies) which seems to transcend anything the hunters are putting together for themselves.

I wonder if Garth would get pulled into that--since he seems to be placing himself as a Hunter Hub, would he either be better at being a Man of Letters, or would he be one of the chosen few that they communicate with? Maybe they'd also like a prophet? Maybe they could keep him safe, if they've been hiding all this time?

Also, if the MoL are as stuffy as Henry, Dean's going to have a good old time shelving his Busty Asian Babes along with their spells.

Come on Carver--give me something. This has to be an addition to the show's mythology, not a throwaway one off.