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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Dec 31, 2012 10:40:08 am PST #27227 of 30002
Because books.

What do you mean by replica, Jen? Something that has a lot of replacement parts/features?

I can't imagine what you would have to do to keep a car in completely original condition forever. Not take it out of the box, I guess.


Cass - Dec 31, 2012 11:35:39 am PST #27228 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

No, but clearly, much of the value is still in your head and not in the car

Money is just metal or paper. Increasingly it's just an agreement without anything you physically hold. So, yes. But the value is generally agreed upon.

A real Chanel 227 bag costs $5,000. A nearly flawless knockoff from China costs less than $200. A bad replica can be had for a whole lot less. At some level you are paying materials and craftsmanship but mostly you are paying for the value we mentally assign. The ex-aunt-in-law is a flight attendant and does the China trips. Trivia I learn...

A "General Lee" that you couldn't make look like the one on TV (for some magical reason) is going to be cheaper than the $39,900 replica, or something you could upgrade to full apparent Lee-ness.

One that was actually on the show but didn't look "correct" in real life or just the same basic car but not General Lee-ified? Because one from the show would be worth more. In the collector car market which is honestly a fandom.

I can't imagine what you would have to do to keep a car in completely original condition forever. Not take it out of the box, I guess.

Basically. They never get to go vroom or even to the grocery store.

What do you mean by replica, Jen? Something that has a lot of replacement parts/features?

That would be a restoration. And value depends heavily on whether the correct parts were used or not. Like replacing a part in your computer or a spring in your watch and you pick the OEM or not. Then you hope it works again.

Replicas are not the real cars. But especially in the case of Cobras, they have kits where you can get a variety of motors and all of the mechanics and then put on a body that looks exactly like a Cobra. And, I think, Cobras are by far the most popular kit cars and many are officially sanctioned in varying degrees.

The quality and value vary wildly. There are ones that use the correct motor and everything for their body and it's one of my dream cars.

Replicas became popular because there were only so many actual cars made. And some were wrecked, some aren't in great shape and some are still pristine and are out of mere mortals price ranges. Limited resources.

Now I am looking at Cobras for sale. The first two 1965s are, at a glance, similar but one is listed at $35k and one at $99k. The first is a replica. The second doesn't say in the blurb. But there's another listing at $875k and it tells you that it is original and well-documented.

Yes, my brain can accept that a car is worth nearly a million but that a purse isn't worth $5000. Both seem priced too high to ever actually use though.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 31, 2012 3:58:07 pm PST #27229 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I am philosophically opposed to any car not driven by Adam West and Burt Ward while in costume being worth nearly a million dollars.


§ ita § - Dec 31, 2012 3:59:45 pm PST #27230 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I had a million and five dollars, I'd consider giving a million in exchange for a road legal Tumbler, but then...insurance. So maybe I'd invest in things that pay off in dollars and not gleegasms.


§ ita § - Dec 31, 2012 4:07:24 pm PST #27231 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Completely irrelevantly, this looked like either Elvis or Jensen to me, so I'm shamed by the reality.


Cass - Dec 31, 2012 4:17:57 pm PST #27232 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I am philosophically opposed to any car not driven by Adam West and Burt Ward while in costume being worth nearly a million dollars.

The first Batmobile is up for sale at next month's Barrett-Jackson auction. [edit: and it's the only orignal flavor Batman. That surprises me.]

And it's historic, sure, but I'd rather have a Tumbler. That just looks fun. You could cosplay a kick-ass Catwoman.

There's actually a good story about how capricious the market can be for "Hollywood" cars. To bring the conversation full circle.


§ ita § - Dec 31, 2012 5:24:24 pm PST #27233 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, you have to read this from the bottom up, and I disagree with the casting, but the concept is hysterical: [link]


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2013 9:58:25 am PST #27234 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Man, there's a line in the last Raising Hope that totally made me think of Dean:

"Pie of the month club? [reads] 'I know you're disappointed that the world didn't end but at least we have pie.'"


Amy - Jan 01, 2013 2:05:40 pm PST #27235 of 30002
Because books.

I disagree with the casting, but the concept is hysterical

The only one I'm unsure about is Zooey Deschanel. Whoever that is playing girl!Sam is perfect.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2013 3:22:37 pm PST #27236 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Girl Sam is great, and Girl Dean I need to see move. Whoever cast girl Cas has a way different view of him I do. The whole "watched the fish leav the primordial soup" thing isn't how I've seen Z in roles up until now--dark haired with intense blue eyes (pause for a moment to consider Cas in fake lashes, or even just a little mascara, and then on your way back consider him in the wedding dress--I'm catch up with you in a sec).

And we're done.

ANYWAY. I've always wanted to add ten pounds of muscle and 15 pounds (spinal cord) to Katie Holmes and we might be good to go. I had hopes for her, dammit. But that person's match for her is great.

All of those crossover GIFs must be a bitch to normalise the backgrounds and colour pallettes for.