In case anyone has 50 or 60K lying around.
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Amy - Dec 31, 2012 4:34:26 am PST #27216 of 30002
Because books.
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 31, 2012 5:58:07 am PST #27217 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
At last! A quantifiable barometer of exactly how much Crazy our fandom can muster!
§ ita § - Dec 31, 2012 6:46:01 am PST #27218 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
You'd have to be selling something way less beautiful for way more money to be measuring crazy. I don't care about the autographs or the "weapons" cache--that car is gorgeous and I want it--the car always has been. But you do need a mechanic in the family with a penchant for American classics, I fear.
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 31, 2012 7:23:39 am PST #27219 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
How much do similar classic cars that don't feature in cult TV shows go for? I admit to inexperience with the topic, but I think I'd balk at $50K unless they threw in a regular schedule of backseat time with Jensen.
Amy - Dec 31, 2012 7:27:35 am PST #27220 of 30002
Because books.
For a fully restored vintage car, that's not an unreasonable price (I'm pretty sure). But the Impala isn't a huge favorite, though -- it's not like it's a 1964 Mustang convertible or something -- so that might make a difference.
brenda m - Dec 31, 2012 7:45:36 am PST #27221 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Yeah, that doesn't seem out of line if it's fully restored. Poking around, I see a pretty wide price range. This is at the high end, but there are definitely others in the 50k range without the fandom hook.
§ ita § - Dec 31, 2012 8:06:35 am PST #27222 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'd imagine any spike in demand for '67 specifically is a) small and b) precisely SPN-related, but if someone said "cherry vintage car ALSO the one like on your show", then $50K does sound like the right amount more than I can afford. Whoever sat in it or signed it is irrelevant to me. Unless they're still sitting or signing, at which point I will go take out the damned loan and work stuff out later.
Cass - Dec 31, 2012 9:09:49 am PST #27223 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
One of the General Lee's went for $125k. But -- and here is my quibble -- it was one of the show's cars. This is just a car that was styled like Baby.
So even in a collector world, it's not nearly as valuable as something that was actually used. It's only of value beyond the actual car to fans. And that car is only valuable because of the show.
Depending on the shape it's really in, it's worth maybe a fifth of that. But if it makes someone happy, it's worth whatever they want to pay.
§ ita § - Dec 31, 2012 10:10:46 am PST #27224 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Surely the General Lee is only valuable because of the show too, right? How is that a difference between the two cases?
I mean, it's pretty clear to me that fandom will pay above ticket price for something a) not as in good condition and b) not as closely matched to Baby (even the show doesn't have just one playing the role) and c) not autographed.
Yeah, its fandom relationships are the premium, but any vehicle associated with any car has a fandom premium whether it is one of *the* cars or not.
Here's a General Lee replica for $39,900: [link] and cursory googling seemed to indicate there are "registered replicas" on the market for it too. We're not alone on that front--we're disorganised.
Cass - Dec 31, 2012 10:27:16 am PST #27225 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
How is that a difference between the two cases?
It was actually used in the show. The history is what adds the value.
It's the difference (apart from condition and variables) between $125k selling price for the General Lee and $39k asking price (it looked still for sale) for a replica.
Value in this case implying actual insurable amounts not the warm fuzzies people get from owning things. A regular insurance company will only insure to vaguely Blue Book value. A collector / historic car insurer like Haggerty will insure to collectible value but not sentimental value.
I'd assumed other fannish things are similar. A bat used by Babe Ruth is worth more than the same kind of bat but not used by Babe Ruth.
Likewise, I have a sculpture that might sell for $10 but is invaluable to me. State Farm cares about the $10.
Interestingly, to me, Cobras are one car that is crazy well organized. An original is priced in the stratosphere but there is a really active and valid market for all of the various replicas and people have agreed on their values.
Replicas have their place but they don't have the same value as original even when there were several "originals" in various conditions and the replica is in better condition.