We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm the hero!

Wash ,'Jaynestown'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Cass - Dec 20, 2012 5:55:44 pm PST #27201 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I am rewatching S3 (because it's the one I can beam to the tv currently) and for as much as I never feel the pull to watch this season, it's not bad.

I actually like Ruby, think Bella was written terribly which is a shame because the actress has amused me in other roles and the lady demon in Sin City rocks. Women could totally be on this show and be awesome. Ah well. It's chock full of creepy little girls.


Amy - Dec 20, 2012 6:02:22 pm PST #27202 of 30002
Because books.

Bela would have been so much fun if she had had some soft spots, or some personal emotional connections. I didn't even get the feeling she particularly liked her cat.

And if she had worked with the boys (at least more willingly than she did in canon), and *then* had to steal the Colt to try and save herself -- what great conflict that would have been. Not wanting to hurt them, but taking her only shot at saving her life, and using her particular skills to do it.


Cass - Dec 20, 2012 6:42:25 pm PST #27203 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

It really felt like they were writing the character to fail. Which is dumb because who would actually do that to their show?

Lauren Cohen totally can work as a character thrown into the mix with emotionally unhealthy brothers. If Vamp D can do it, Supernatural could have.

Also this rewatch is all rose-colored. Sandra McCoy as the Crossroads Demon barely annoyed me. Probably because I knew she was dying at the end of her scene.


Cass - Dec 20, 2012 9:18:09 pm PST #27204 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Ooooooooh, yes. Now I remember. Insults to men are feminized. Insults to women are sexualized. So many whores. Charming.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 21, 2012 9:18:47 am PST #27205 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, after all, what could one possibly call a mass-murdering supernatural monster that would be more insulting than "whore"?


Cass - Dec 21, 2012 7:25:52 pm PST #27206 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Well, after all, what could one possibly call a mass-murdering supernatural monster that would be more insulting than "whore"?

Whores are the worst, right? I mean fighting demons, being the antichrist, Lucifer wanting to wear you and Leviathans happen. But whores? Whores.

Still, I am totally back into my reimmersion in S3.

I have two Mystery Spot comments.

First, there are (fun!) moments that I'd totally peg as Jensen instead of Dean. The "Heat of the Moment" at the intro to each day is a preview to the "Eye of the Tiger" bit later on next season. They amuse me though.

Two, this is horror. I mean, it's really awful. Sam watches Dean die for real an untold number of times on Tuesday. And once on Wednesday. Then he goes on. Even halfway through the Tuesdays, I could see some of soulless Sam. After? That is a really broken hunter. Props to Jared.

Very weird to feel like Jensen is letting himself bleed through the character of Dean a little and Sam is acting his ass off being a different iteration of the character. I'm impressed as a fan on both counts.

Mystery Spot should have (maybe did) break Sam.

For an ep that we think of as having humor, it's dark and epically broken. Like Winchesters.


Beverly - Dec 21, 2012 9:27:18 pm PST #27207 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

(points to Cass' post) What she said, on both counts.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2012 5:30:27 am PST #27208 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I twitch when people repost from this ep for laughs, especially Tuesdays on tumblr. I don't think of it as funny--it's really really awful to me. There are no funny ways to kill your sibling. At best exhausting, when you know you'll do it again tomorrow. And the robot he becomes--those are the pictures I repost, or Sam holding Dean in the parking lot. It isn't even sad, it's flat out horror.

I don't see the Jensen bits though, since I think of Eye Of The Tiger as Dean and not the actor.


Cass - Dec 22, 2012 7:14:07 am PST #27209 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I don't see the Jensen bits though, since I think of Eye Of The Tiger as Dean and not the actor.

When I didn't realize he did the bit twice, I thought of it as Dean thing. But going meta and knowing some of his friends? Feels like a Jensen party trick. It's just too damn rehearsed. Which I say happily and amused. It was really cute. (I'd recently pulled up the Eye of the Tiger to watch, so I noticed it obviously more than I did when eps just aired.)

And I'll admit I used to think of Mystery Spot as really dark humor. But watching from a few seasons on, it's not even funny to me.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2012 7:41:57 am PST #27210 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Rehearsed doesn't make something less Jensen for me (especially since roles and rehearsing go hand in hand), but basically I know nothing about Jensen (and less than nothing about his friends) and what party tricks he may or may not do--the choice to scratch his arm puts it firmly into Dean territory for me, and precisely Dean in Yellow Fever territory. If Jensen also had an itch that day I'll chalk it up to curious coincidences.

I also don't consider an actor using his own reactions, etcetera, as bleedthrough, so that might be the source of a fundamental disconnect. If it's conscious, it's reuse. I saw that in Eureka all the time. Bleedthrough is, to me, when they likely don't know they're doing it--I wonder about some of the times when their accents get more Texan, for instance. Do they know that? Are they doing that? Do they have any interest in redoing the take in the more neutral Winchester accent?