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And permanent relationships with women tougher and luckier than they were so that they would each have someone in their life besides each other
Why permanent? Why not a never ending series of bendy ladies who can hold their liquor?
(To me Dean would rather have a kid than and LD relationship-I'm not seeing that yearning independent of an actual person the way I read it for Sam)
But what happened wasn't ambiguous. It wasn't that close. Dean did some mental legwork on that one. And I feel the script acknowledges that.
Now I'm really not sure where we're disagreeing. If you think the script acknowledges the fact that he changed his memory purposely, what is it you're not buying? That Dean is the type of person who would do that?
One of the local high schools runs adult evening classes ("for lifelong learners") -- everything from crafts to computer skills to dance, and so on. In the most recent catlog I found the following:
Hunting Ghosts: Basic Boot Camp
Are you a big fan of TV's "Ghost Adventure" or "Ghost Hunters"? This class will give you the confidence to explore ghost hunting as a passion or hobby, under the direction of avid ghost hunter and paranormal investigator, Lesley Wood. Weekly topics include site orientation and geography; historical research; psychic protection; ghost photography, recording EVPs, EMF meters, and Frank's Box; using trigger objects; interviewing skills and more. Optional: field trip to Fort Mifflin or other historic site for a ghost hunt, date TBD and cost additional.
Only $65 for 4 sessions! I kept picturing the expressions on the Winchesters' faces if they happened to read that description.
If you think the script acknowledges the fact that he changed his memory purposely, what is it you're not buying? That Dean is the type of person who would do that?
There's nothing I don't buy--I was saying that I found the deliberate reconstruction of the events was significant and interesting damage. But it's interesting to me because I find it more than fluid or veering, but rather a telling quantum leap.
Why permanent? Why not a never ending series of bendy ladies who can hold their liquor?
I think that would only work if they were also able to defend themselves against Demons and such, or if there was some sort of spell that would keep demons, and angels and monsters and gods from knowing they had associated with Dean, and hurting them as a way to get to him.
Also, I think part of paradise for Dean would be friends who were not endangered by what Dean did - either protected or tough enough not to need protection. Friends in the same town as his protected home.
Has Dean ever endangered a woman he had casual sex with?
Where have you seen him display a longing for a permanent relationship or more friends?
I don't know, I think the eagerness with which he latched on to Crazy Frank spoke of a longing for more friends.
Eagerness? Frank?
This is why I need to ask questions, because I totally don't see anything like that on my own. I got the impression he was kinda irritated with him at first, came to accept it was part of the package and he respected that, but he barely shrugged when he died.
He's defensive about his friendship with Benny, but by my count that brings him up to 2.5 (grudging acceptance of Garth is the half--if he'd sit down and have a beercoffee with him, or something, I'd upgrade it) but none of them are friends in a "I should get more of these" way.
He was hanging around Frank enough to pick up hacking tricks from him and such. I don't think it was a bum-around-and-have-beers-together kind of thing, but by that point his social circle was Sam's crazy ass, so I read it as an urge for companionship.
He was hanging around Frank enough to pick up hacking tricks from him and such
I'm not going to assume proximity to another hunter implies friendship, because it hasn't before, and "long enough to pick up hacking tricks" could just be one of the million things Frank was schooling him in.
I guess I'm looking for differences in either behaviour, motivation, or last on the list--actually admitting it.
by that point his social circle was Sam's crazy ass, so I read it as an urge for companionship
I read it as getting the tools he needs to be a badassed hunter, especially when Sam might be out of the game for his normal subject matter expertise.