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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Nov 06, 2012 3:09:48 pm PST #26845 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, this [link] came up on my dash, with the tag #Castiel defending the Winchesters in front of his brothers and I cannot stop laughing.

It's good to have something to laugh about today--it would have been full up with stress even without an election.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2012 3:31:02 pm PST #26846 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Someone (on IO9) said that Castle was the only show that was respectful of fans. I had a big misstep countering her, because I suggested Bones' Avatar episode (no more disrespectful than any they've done), and I think Show has done a lot of pro-us stuff (they shipped us with themselves, after all), and Community is the template for Nice To Fen.]

Are people on the side that Becky and the con-goers were a cumulative jab at us, or that it was fondly mixed (which is where I am--there are enough real fans who would not stop at kidnapping Sam, but would need to kill Dean TO BE SAFE, so I don't think there's a fandom leg to stand on...)?


Amy - Nov 06, 2012 3:34:24 pm PST #26847 of 30002
Because books.

I say fondly mixed.


sumi - Nov 06, 2012 4:40:41 pm PST #26848 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

I think fondly mixed.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2012 6:07:31 pm PST #26849 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Fondly mixed, though those episodes tend to send me running for the hall to watch from.

Not only did I not have problems with understanding Benny, I didn't work out that people might have problems. I wonder if there were audio issues on some of the broadcasts.

My audio on the CW and Fox has been terrible lately, but there was at least one thing Benny said with apparently clear audio that nevertheless made use of no consonants whatsoever.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2012 6:28:22 pm PST #26850 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

there was at least one thing Benny said with apparently clear audio that nevertheless made use of no consonants whatsoever

Do you remember what that was? I am surprised so much was garbled for so many--it's not a rare complaint at all.

I was putting together a photoset, so I did an image search of soulless Sam and it's interesting to look at the styling choices and Jared's facial expressions that went into indicating the lack of that important ingredient.

Also fun in a relatively stress-free no-more-oh-god-where's-the-love sort of a way. When I think back on the bits that didn't involve our confusion or Dean's and his frustration to boot, never mind Bobby's fight for his life--all the rest of Soulless Sam (okay, basically the fairy episode) was hysterical and lovable.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2012 6:42:11 pm PST #26851 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

No, but then I didn't understand what he was saying. It sounded like a combination of a whisper and a teakettle to me.


Amy - Nov 06, 2012 6:51:27 pm PST #26852 of 30002
Because books.

Jared's facial expressions that went into indicating the lack of that important ingredient

Soulless Sam was really aware of himself as this beautiful, powerful animal. Regular Sam can be confident and purposefully powerful *when he's alone with a woman*, but he doesn't walk around with the knowledge that he's this gorgeous, built man.

Dean, on the other hand, is not smug about it, but he certainly knows exactly how good-looking he is.


JenP - Nov 06, 2012 7:19:37 pm PST #26853 of 30002

I wonder if there were audio issues on some of the broadcasts.

I watched on On Demand, and I had to turn my volume up all the way, which I never do, so maybe, and it even carried over to On Demand, apparently.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2012 7:55:14 pm PST #26854 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Regular Sam can be confident and purposefully powerful *when he's alone with a woman*

I think that's very interesting. It's pointless to wonder if that's Jared going "Well, now it's SEXXXY time not that rough stuff" and not having a continuous characterisation from Sam, since it's canon, and that's Sam. And it's also kinda rough in that HOT way (Wincest porn must be *full* of him manhandling Dean, mustn't it? I got the impression that he's usually the aggressor, whether for size coding or easing up on the predatory nature of parental figure incest or just because we've seen him be good at it...the snippets of Sam/Jess I've read have been sweet or romantic or playful but not as hot as Heart, f'rinstance--jesus, that was an awakening...) anyway.

I've been noticing recently at the end of any exertion, Sam does this sort of gasping .. I don't know... thing where his pecs look like they're almost parallel to the floor as he inflates and deflates the gigantic bellows that form his rib cage and his shoulders roll back a bit as he regains his calm. I'm oddly in love with it.

Dean, on the other hand, is not smug about it, but he certainly knows exactly how good-looking he is.

He can't. HE CANNOT. His brain would explode or he'd spend all day looking at himself in the rearview mirror. In fact, I imagine that's Jensen's entire life when he's not acting--exploring or adoring himself.

I would say he knows he's hot enough to get most of what he wants, but if someone were to rhapsodise over his looks he'd get awkward and have an attack of the insecures and the not-importants. I think he thinks he's a good looking guy, but I also think he probably figures he pulls so well because he's a stud...that he overvalues his playerness when, really, most women are like "One night? With that face, and that ass, and those arms? Please god, don't say something too stupid or offensive and make me wake up from this dream early."

The idea that someone would look at him and think "You're kind of a good guy--sweet and brave and good, and YOU'RE BUILT LIKE A BOWLEGGED HORSE-RIDING GUN-TOTING GOD WITH THE FACE OF APOLLO" is probably alien to him. APOLLO.

(I have decided to give Poseidon Sam's looks, and Zeus can look like John. Saying Bobby is Vulcan is not meant to be rude (at this point I'm surely mixing Greek and Roman-I dig that), but I like him that way--the question is--Mary is Athena, and Ellen is Hera? Jo is Persephone, Castiel is Mercury.)

And that's my random tangent for the day.