Also, now I don't know what this means, but Dean calling Kevin's mom Tiger Mom?

I may be completely wrong, but I thought it was a reference to Amy Chua's book that got so much publicity and caused so much controversy.

I have no idea why Dean's mind would go there, but that's where mine went.

It's not an act of faith in the divine, but it fits some of the criteria. I don't understand why it's an issue.

See, shouldn't a prayer be an act of faith in the divine? Otherwise what's the point? Anyway, I've been thinking, and I think my other problem with the praying to Castiel is the way that Castiel's character has evolved.... he's frequently been used as the butt of the joke and comic relief, and from a personal standpoint that's not how I prefer to see my angels. Also from a personal perspective, I can't imagine ever, ever taking any entity to whom I pray to a whorehouse to get laid. Or sit in a room with them and watch porn. So I suppose me and Show will have a YMMV difference of opinion on the subject, that's all. Obviously other people will have other points of view.

I have no idea what year it is now in SPN-land, maybe he read it during the fight against the leviathans (maybe Bobby had it kicking around?).

But, I hope it's that. Makes me feel better about the comment and title, and reinforces Dean's hidden reader (after the whole Lovecraft debacle).

I kinda liked that the teaser wasn't crucial to the plot, only tangential, but that it still had it's resolution. Was sad to see Kevin's mom (I really should learn her name) end up catatonic, but I suppose being possessed by Crowley is a mite different than the average demon possession (which would still be traumatic, but she just had so much spark that I'd think she'd be one of the strong ones to come through okay -if it had been a non-red-eye, which, nice to have that tidbit finally!)

Cheerios: so, if Cas is trying to stay one step ahead of the Leviathans, why is he in a known location? And if he's heard everyone of Dean's prayers, and therefore that Dean is on his way to him (my assumption being that the subsequent prayers would be "your skinny ass better be there when I get there!").

Also, are the leviathans after Cas ones that never got out of Purgatory in the first place, or, well . . . no, that must be that, since no leviathan was actually killed on earth, right? Just disabled with the decapitation? So, not pissed that they got sent back, but that they weren't among those who escaped? Unless he's referring to Dick Roman, who is the only I can think of that got sent back.

You don't have to have read the book to know Tiger Mommy. It was all over gawker and that level of "news" coverage. I certainly haven't read any of the books, but I've seen much discussion of the phenomenon, and defense of such mothers, etc.

Comatose? Are you assuming Kevin carried her out of there?

Do you think that Cas was deliberately or carelessly in a "known location"? Someone knew where he was, but that someone may or may not have included leviathan. It's not like there was a neon sign, or anything.

I said catatonic, not comatose, but even that was just a broad generalization for whatever her state of mind was. But I would imagine that a person in some sort of fugue state might be urged to move along. What was your take on Mom-of-Kevin's mental state?

I could see that Cas could have found a safe place to hunker down. It just seems sketchy that it could be known to other denizens of purgatory, which could then lead to the leviathans finding him. Maybe those that knew were something like Benny, not enemies. Hmm, maybe the denizens have a code about not giving each other up?

But, yeah, maybe Cas wanted Dean to find him, despite his motive for running. I could see that.

I have never thought of catatonic people (forgive my thinko) as people you can walk anywhere with, never mind flee the scene. I'd call her non-responsive. And on the light side of that. Zoned out, maybe?

Leviathans are supposed to be pretty stupid (I'm extrapolating from falling apart without leadership). I have little difficulty with the idea of someone, anyone, many ones, in Purgatory being either cannier or more informed than them.

How would Cas wanting to be found by Dean work? In my head he wants to save Dean enough that he really meant to be not found.

Next week is the JA-directed episode.

Hey, Mrs. Tran was Ross's girlfriend Julie on Friends. I knew she looked familiar.

I could see that Cas could have found a safe place to hunker down. It just seems sketchy that it could be known to other denizens of purgatory, which could then lead to the leviathans finding him.

I didn't get that impression. I thought he was just trying to stay two steps ahead of Dean, to draw the leviathans off Dean's trail. It didn't seem more complicated than that -- clearly other creatures in purgatory knew he was there. I'm not sure there would have been a way for him to hide without ever being seen.

As I said, I'm just quibbling over the use of the word "prayer" which is something that caught my attention in a show that has a hazy relationship with religion at best.

I think it's less bad writing than Dean's shorthand for "I was calling you, Cas," really. He's not praying for Cas to save him or to show him the way or any of that, he's just trying to get in touch. But Show does play fast and loose with religious traditions.

And I think Sam did believe in angels before he met Cas. Or maybe not believed in the strictest sense, but he certainly wanted to. If he was praying every night, then he had a kind of faith in the whole institution (God, angels, saints, etc.) .

Remember that some Leviathans have been eaten by other Leviathans, or apparently forced to eat themselves. Presumably that's fatal and results in their spirits returning to Purgatory like the one imitating Dick Roman.

Also, now I don't know what this means, but Dean calling Kevin's mom Tiger Mom? made me do a double take.

Sam is actually the first one to say this, in the car when they're outside her house.