Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.

'Serenity'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 04, 2012 5:47:35 pm PDT #26538 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Why am I visualizing Cas just giving up on taking action since it never seems to work out for him and dispersing himself into the flora and fauna of Purgatory?


Anne W. - Oct 05, 2012 1:26:58 am PDT #26539 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

And I thought Dean's "I saw enough" was a flashing clue that Castiel was still alive. Dean did not see him die, so we don't really know that he is dead. Even if Dean is not deliberately using misleading phrasing, it still leaves room for him to be wrong.

That's exactly what I came away thinking. I'm dying to know why Dean is being evasive about the details - it is simply because losing Castiel was traumatic in and of itself, or is something else going on?


P.M. Marc - Oct 05, 2012 9:31:45 am PDT #26540 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I saw enough seemed like a big old clue to me.

I'm happy with platonic but that's just not how that Benny and Dean call was played. It was like, you know what we had was good and all but no one can know here. Very down low. Oh, shippers can call them Bean.

Which means that Dean/Bobby has to be Dobby insted of Bean? Okey dokey!

Amy, as you know, I stand firmly in your corner.


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2012 8:19:49 am PDT #26541 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We can take as written that I'm not nice, right? I'm hunting down good John Winchester posts on tumblr, and I come across this gem that must be in an ironic font that I don't have installed on the new Mac yet:

I've decided to become a write [sic] for tv shows

So tv is my life. Srsly. So are movies and fanfics. In fact it’s gotten to the point where I feel like I have seen so many that I feel like I can predict what will happen next. On that note I have decided to change my major from history to whatever the hell i need to become a writer for tv. Case in point I have written how I think Supernatural should end after I saw a post talking about Dean’s first words in the show and how they were spoken to Sammy.Someone pointed out that they were goodnight Sammy and how those may be his last words as well. Ok here we go:

Dean’s last words are going to be the same as his first words, “Goodnight Sammy.” Then Sammy will die. After Dean is sure that Sammy is gone Dean dies as well. Ok then he will wake up in heaven and as he walks through the pearly gates the person who meets him at the gates will be of course God. And who do I think (as well as a lot of people believe) God is? CHUCK! Then Chuck explains what happens to the world and mankind in the end of y’know “It All”. Since (going to good old Catholic School my whole life) I have been taught time moves differently when we are dead that will mean that when Dean is actually in heaven judgement day will have already have happened. Anyway, so Chuck and Dean start to walk and talk through the beautiful garden (maybe somewhere else who knows) and then Dean looks up and Cas an Sammy are there. only Sam is with someone…JESSICA. Boom. Then someone comes running up to Dean and jumps into his arms. Who is it?? JO. Boom again! Well then we pan out and see Ash and Ellen and John and Mary and Bobby! Anyone and everyone who we have ever had to watch die horrifically is there. All in heaven. Oh yeah and the impala is there too of course

The end.

Ok so thoughts?


Amy - Oct 06, 2012 8:50:33 am PDT #26542 of 30002
Because books.

Isn't that how everyone expects the show to end?

t /sarcasm


Juliebird - Oct 06, 2012 10:21:18 am PDT #26543 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm was skimming a really terrible fic where Dean and Sam are really terrible people and the author keeps tiptoeing around the rape of slaves by calling it "work" and Dean and Sam having a casual conversation about whether or not they should "use" Cas before selling him.

This is the AN for the end of chapter 1:

Anyway, I'm not going to beg for reviews because I always find that really annoying, but obviously reviews would be lovely - they just make my day =]

I want to punch them in the nose.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 06, 2012 10:22:45 am PDT #26544 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I suspect if I write a review it won't make her day.


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2012 10:30:52 am PDT #26545 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Isn't that how everyone expects the show to end?

But I don't want Baby to die!

Does Catholic school teach a) time moves differently in heaven and b) any part of their religion is usefully represented by a show on the CW? ANY show?

(Since the show seems to show time moves differently when you're not on earth, why not cite that as your source?)

Julie-- that seems to be the sort of slave fic that I can't handle. The sort that do start to look remotely similar to the valuation of slaves who came over in the Middle Passage, as demonstrated by any of the characters we're not meant to despise. And I don't care if the character arc is that they see the error of their ways in the end, they'd pretty much need to sacrifice their lives for the Abolitionist cause early in chapter 2, and there can be no sex with a slave because it's the kind of non con that I can't fictionalise, no matter how loudly I tell myself it's just a story. Some things it's hard to make distance from.

Stacked up some more posts in the John Is A Hero tumblr. I can't believe how few fics I'm now encountering where Cas has a flavour. I swear--I didn't go back and read old stories when I started that tumblr--the first 20 or so was what I was reading at the time. So why has that angle dried up? I read a high percentage of eerything that gets posted to deancastiel and whatever floats up with that tag on AO3--it seems that more fic is from Castiel's POV now, thereby removing that description option.

But why would a fandom or a set of shippers shift the predominant POV of their stories? I can't work that out. Maybe I'll ask in the fic thread too.


Juliebird - Oct 06, 2012 10:39:32 am PDT #26546 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

It gets worse: the character arc looked like it was shaping up to be not Dean and Sam realizing that slavery is bad, m'kay, but oh, slavery is fine if they're born into it. But the HORROR of free American citizens being sold into slavery, how UNJUST!


Juliebird - Oct 07, 2012 2:20:27 pm PDT #26547 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Watching reruns, and it's the baby shapeshifter episode. Yeah, still irked over the treatment of Dean and babies and completely ignoring what a four/five year old Dean had to do to possibly take care of baby Sammy. On one hand, yeah, we don't know at what point John kinda gave up as a dad and focused on being a hunter, and what point Dean had to become a mom. Maybe it was post-diapers phase, or maybe he was so young that he doesn't remember the diaper changing. And yet, it seems too important too have him forget.