River: You gave up everything you had. Simon: [Chinese] Everything I have is right here.

'Safe'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Sep 23, 2012 5:10:39 pm PDT #26363 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

(Oh, hey, apparently West's birthday is today???)


Amy - Sep 23, 2012 5:22:58 pm PDT #26364 of 30002
Because books.

They're always cuter when they're newborn.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2012 6:45:54 pm PDT #26365 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From the distance I'm standing, 12-18 month old West is the cutest thing in the world.

And, lord, the freaking out on Tumblr. I pray some of these people are 12, or getting professional help, or both.

Like, seriously---

AND MISHA BEING A BRAND NEW DAD ALL OVER AGAIN AND VICKI AND WHAT DO I DO GUISE. I am thinking I should eat for the occassion, but don’t really feel like eating. So I am pretty much rolling around my room screaming various versions of “Misha” “Baby Collins” “OMG Vicki” and “exactly 2 years” BECAUSE NOTHING IS HOLDING MY FEELS.

That's "ironic", right?

This extrapolation into season 9, however, was worth wandering through the wilds of Tumblr purgatory.


Amy - Sep 24, 2012 5:01:20 am PDT #26366 of 30002
Because books.

Oh my god, HAIR.

BECAUSE NOTHING IS HOLDING MY FEELS

Wow. Take a step back, people.


libkitty - Sep 24, 2012 9:31:24 am PDT #26367 of 30002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I'm in S5 now (how did that happen?!), and just watched I Believe The Children Are Our Future. Unlike The End, I think that Dean has learned the wrong lesson from this one. He, and Sam, say that they learned that lying to children may be valuable, even desired. Instead, though, I think that this ep, and most of the last season and a half, have been showing how corrosive lies are, especially when they seem plausible (even if only plausible in a freaky-deaky world).

Sam and Dean are very practical. They lie or tell the truth when it suits their purposes, and I can understand that. Sam seems to see when the truth will work better than a lie, but is just as willing to lie when needed. I can understand this in some of their day to day adventures. But if anyone had just told Sam the truth, the apocalypse would have been averted. I understand Sam blaming himself for this, but honestly, it really pisses me off to see the same people who lied to, or at least misled, Sam blaming him for basically believing their lies.

I think that the situation with Jesse ended with a win for the good guys. It's not what they wanted, but Jesse is aware of the situation. He seems to believe Sam's version, which is the most accurate one. He doesn't really trust Sam and Dean, but he seems to understand that the demons are the big problem. Can he raise himself up wisely and safely? I don't know. Maybe he'll fall in with others who take advantage of him. Maybe his absolute power will corrupt absolutely. But he seems to be a good kid. Maybe he'll find a mentor he can trust. Maybe he can end a force for good. It seems like going off to Australia or wherever may indeed be his best shot.

I have a great desire to write more, but must get ready for a meeting during my not!vacation. Sigh.


Amy - Sep 24, 2012 1:30:53 pm PDT #26368 of 30002
Because books.

I've been disappointed they didn't do anything with Jesse after that -- I was sure he would come up again. A kid with that much power could definitely provide a plot point or two.

I think this episode was sort of clunky with the honesty issue -- the whole thing begins because adults don't tell children the truth about the tooth fairy, etc. In the end, I think what Sam and Dean felt was not so much that lying to children is a good thing, but that they wished there wasn't anything frightening for a child to know.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 24, 2012 4:27:56 pm PDT #26369 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Conversely, I've been very thankful the producers seemed to forget that plot thread as soon as it was left dangling.


Morgana - Sep 24, 2012 5:02:39 pm PDT #26370 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I obviously need to re-watch, because what I remember most, other than the shock of seeing Castiel willing to kill a child, was the annoyance of Dean thinking it was cool that Jesse could exorcise a demon with his mind while he was always horrified and sometimes punching Sam when he did so.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2012 6:07:37 pm PDT #26371 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would imagine that if Jesse was Dean's brother he'd be even more horrified than how shocked he was at Sam's reveal in S4. Dean having one set of rules for his family and one for everyone else has pretty much been there since year one. If not week.


libkitty - Sep 24, 2012 11:41:46 pm PDT #26372 of 30002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

It does seem kind of odd that they wouldn't come back to the Antichrist, but I suppose that Jesse might be even harder to find now that he's actually hiding. I guess I wasn't all that surprised by Castiel, who has shown a willingness to go for expediency in the past.

ION, I think I may have a toaster already. Whee! I think I have my cousin hooked, even though she tends to be more of a procedurals fan.

And, completely OT, has anyone figured out cutting and pasting from previous posts and reading white font with an iPad? I lurve the iPad for most things, but reading and posting here with it is getting frustrating.