I do not get the knotting fics. I just don't.

Where did that whole AU concept come from, for one thing? Did some fic writer come up with it, and everyone glommed onto it?

Jilli, from what I've seen, on the various kink memes there was a huge response to bestiality prompts, particularly for the Jensen/Harley prompts, as Beverly said. And lo, people went beserk. Although some people were squicked by the the bestiality part they apparently enjoyed the knotting part, because they eased on into alpha/omega/beta fiction (and don't ask me to explain the difference). That can take place with them as shapeshifters, so in animal form, or as humans, but who have knots. They get to go in heat and all kinds of interesting things. The overriding kink seems to be that the knot hurts so good going in... it hurts, of course, but then it presses against the prostate and is held in place for a lengthy amount of time. It has turned into a whole subset of fiction like mpreg and wingfic. I scroll on by all of them, but to each their own.

Huh. The knotting stories I've read, the knot doesn't go in. It doesn't swell up until they're already in and are about to ejaculate. But I'm hardly seasoned in the trope.

Other fandoms have it, though--I'm assuming it would have leaked into here somehow, given...given everything.

I know I've seen this around, but I don't remember which around, so I apologise if I'm reposting here--my vision is blurry again and it's hard to read: [link] Brian Buckley video with Jared and Gen.

It should, if done correctly, follow this: [link]

Of course, I suppose I am asking for too much for research into how knotting works in nature in a trope with self-lubing assginas and MPreg.

But still.

Which reminds me, Jilli, I still need to draw the 19th century anatomy style assgina. For reasons.

Is anyone doing it correctly? And what makes that correct? I mean, I know it's real, but this is human gay knotting, so already making some changes.

I haven't come across a single example of the baculum yet, and I think it's weird to call those fics wrong for that lack.

Every knotting fic I've seen has the penetrator hard (no baculum) but the knot swelling after insertion, which leaves them tied together for a while.

I can't believe I just typed that.

Actually, at least one fic was werewolves, and they knew that fucking/knotting was not going to result in little cubs. They just wanted to be together.

Amy and I are maybe not reading the same fics (I don't read werewolf stuff), but that's the methodology I've come across pretty consistently.

Oh, and copious self-lubing.

Which reminds me, Jilli, I still need to draw the 19th century anatomy style assgina. For reasons.

Sentences I never expected to have addressed to me.

Oh, I just remembered there was someone in the SPN novel thread who wasn't a fan, and decided to complain about an excessively photoshopped picture of one of the Js. Two people responded and said "Nah, they are that pretty, though."

Clearly there are some disgustingly overworked pictures, but there was something about what the person was complaining had been altered that also made me think...no, but that's true.

I just came back from staring at this again, and I think that if you find yourself in a position where you do have to shop a picture of one of them? Go kill the photographer, so they don't do any more crap work, mmkay? You should be able to get by without it.

Gah! The story that I was liking had a kinda pouty Cas dry Dean out, and now Dean is musing on how his father would have beaten him up for being gay.

SO much less enjoyable than I'd anticipated, in one chapter.

For some reason this makes me wonder if someone has done a D/C "Its a wonderful life" fusion. I don't want to read one; I just wonder if it has been done.