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'Serenity'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Jul 06, 2012 3:14:42 pm PDT #25798 of 30002
Because books.

We should confess our Supernatural secrets, too. I'll go first! One of the only things that I can't forgive the writers for is making Dean toss the amulet.


SuziQ - Jul 06, 2012 3:26:19 pm PDT #25799 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'll be pissed if we don't see Metallicar again.


Amy - Jul 06, 2012 3:46:30 pm PDT #25800 of 30002
Because books.

I'm not sure who would fix her until Dean comes back, but I can't believe the writers would ditch her again. Show needs car.


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2012 3:48:44 pm PDT #25801 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there any reason to worry that we won't see it again? It's in the same place as Sam, right?

I'm not sure if I have any secrets. That would imply that I exercise any sort of decision making or criteria evaluation before I post here.

Let me think...

I am pissed that they *forgot* the handprint on Dean's shoulder, and then given that never bothered to toss in a line about it being healed away at the end of Swan Song. I hate when there's something they can trivially retcon to make consistent and they don't even bother. Cop to it in text! Hang a lampshade, jeez.

No...let me reach down further and see what I have...

I really don't want Gabriel back. Loki/Gabriel got his story, and went out wings ablaze. Just because Speight is funny and popular doesn't mean the storyline needs to retread and undo what it's done.

And...

I still haven't seen 10 Inch Hero. I feel I can't call myself a proper Deangirl given that it's been sitting on my TiVo for months and I've never clicked play.

I still feel those are more "things I've said only once so far" rather than secrets. I'll toss it around some and see if any first-time admissions bubble to the surface.


Amy - Jul 06, 2012 3:54:13 pm PDT #25802 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, I forgot about the handprint. That bugs me, too.

I still haven't seen 10 Inch Hero.

You really need to watch it. Jensen is faux!pierced and faux!inked and faux!hawked, and so fucking adorable, it almost hurt. It's not the greatest ending in the world, but the movie's worth seeing. It's sweet and intimate and funny and pretty genuine.


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2012 4:03:18 pm PDT #25803 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kripke and the writers' room's tendency to say "Oh, we're past that point now!" kinda ignores the bit where we don't feel like we got closure as often as he seems to be over stuff. Just...give us a line, okay? We are the crazy people that need to be told the Samulet's not coming back, or we'll pine away and die on the sliver of hope remaining.

I'm not saying we need a whole episode about the handprint or someone explaining why the fuck we still call Meg Meg or why Dean's eyes bled in Bloody Mary...but you could have tidied up after yourself, you know?

We are the crazy fandom. Placate us.


Juliebird - Jul 06, 2012 4:10:17 pm PDT #25804 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm cool with him staying in Purgatory if it becomes a split show, with Sam bravely soldiering on earthside with the hunting and Dean & Cas in a season-long game of cat-and-mouse with monster souls and going native.

Matt, I'd be down with this on the basis that it breaks formula so hard, which a part me thinks Show needs, or at least could stand for. But then again, it breaks formula SO HARD, and with such a long term committment. Boys have only been separated for barely an episode. I don't think even two. But we've all been asking what could be done that's new, and that so totally is.

And then again, what makes the show work is Sam and Dean's chemistry, and so keeping them apart is a HUGE risk. Not in that they'll then be making bad TV, but that fans might be "this isn't what I signed up and stayed on for".

Maybe if it was done with a long-term goal already mapped out, and the narratives were woven in such a way that we get three stories: 1) Dean and Cas in Purgatory, 2) Sam looking for a way to get Dean and Cas OUT of Purgatory, and 3) present day, with Dean back on earth with Sam, and some mystery of how that came to be, and another mystery of what's happened with Cas, and maybe why he isn't in the picture, or maybe why is he different (again). Or, since the "present" storyline would be Dean safe and out, there's no urgency, and the mystery hinges on Cas, which shouldn't be the focus of the show. So maybe the present storyline could be CAS and Sam back but Dean gone --crap, but that negates the idea of getting Dean and Sam in the same scenes to continue the draw of their chemistry. But I do like the idea of Sam getting downtime with Cas and fleshing out that friendship we never really got to see.

Hmmm.... ooh, "present time" is instead "on Earth" and showcases Dean and Cas being able to temporarily slip from Purgatory. Sam never knows who's going to pop in on him, or for how long, so he gets a bit of both. Meanwhile, at the same time, Cas and Dean are stuck in Purgatory, but sometimes one of them slips out, and the other is left alone, and when it's Dean, he's in a shit ton of trouble.

But that would have to be really and thoroughly planned out to make it work. No flying by the seat of their pants.

I'll read that fanfic, though.


Morgana - Jul 06, 2012 4:18:10 pm PDT #25805 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

The Orb of Thesselae -- was that from Buffy or from Angel?


Amy - Jul 06, 2012 4:22:48 pm PDT #25806 of 30002
Because books.

It was from both, Morgana, but there's also a witch named Thessaly in The Sandman apparently (so now I'm wondering if Joss was shouting out there, too).


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2012 4:36:20 pm PDT #25807 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am so not down with extended separation for the boys. I don't mind if it happens--I just don't care to watch it, really. I show up weekly to feed on the brotherly bond, and I can't see it being mined for enough with them apart, since I'm not actually interested in pining, and fierce struggle to be together again isn't a wide range of notes with which to compose.

I love me some Cas and some DeanandCas, but that's not the show, as Julie says, I signed on for.

One episode, tops. Which we might at least get, since Jensen's directing the opener, so it might be Dean lite. But part of me wonders what happened to Cas. If the opener is spare on Dean, is it just the Sam Show? Or is it him and Cas? Ooh...I can see the pitchforks and flaming pentagrams from here...Sera might be grateful she's well clear.

At the most essential--if Dean and Sam can't share screentime and scenes, that most likely means less of both of them.

I don't want less of either of them. Please write the show around that.