I think a lot of folks here are lucky to have been raised in a progressive environment where corporal punishment was seen as something near-mythical and only practiced in the Dark Ages or by ogres. I've been belt whipped, and John Winchester reads as a lot more of a strict disciplinarian to me than my Dad was.
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Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 05, 2012 3:18:48 pm PDT #25779 of 30002
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Juliebird - Jul 05, 2012 3:19:06 pm PDT #25780 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
So, my parents were basically hippies, and me and my older brother would make a game out of stealing one of our father's belts, folding it in half, and snapping it while the other screamed. Yes, the idea of being beaten with a belt was so silly and outlandish that we made a game out of it.
And now I feel like a jackass. Sorry, Matt.
I'd think John's form of punishment would be lunges until you puke or pushups until their arms gave out in muscle fatigue. The smoke-the-whole-pack-of-cigarettes-until-you-turn-green. Extra laps around the motel. Punishment that, in the end, makes you stronger (I went to basic with guys who didn't mind getting punished because they knew it would just make them better).
Amy - Jul 05, 2012 3:24:28 pm PDT #25781 of 30002
Because books.
I'm sorry about that, Matt. My experience includes a lot of working class families, but maybe it has more to do with region or simply my generation.
§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 4:20:54 pm PDT #25782 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Obviously I didn't grow up in parallel households with many of you, but although my parents would never hit us with belts, parents of friends disciplined them that way, and I did have the misfortune of one of them thinking their rules applied to me.
That was ha ha funny to go home and tell my parents about--it was a line they observed, but I knew a shitload of kids whose parents thought the belt was just fine, and all I considered myself was lucky--they were happy healthy intelligent kids who loved their parents and weren't afraid of them--they just had higher/different penalties for misbehaving.
I have realised that when I say I think John hit the boys that some people hear me saying he didn't love them, or they didn't love him and I'm absolutely not saying anything of the sort.
§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 5:07:53 pm PDT #25783 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What do you say to someone who says their least favourite fanon is that John had sex after Mary's death?
Amy - Jul 05, 2012 5:10:14 pm PDT #25784 of 30002
Because books.
That it's not fanon? Adam was not conceived immaculately, folks.
Wow, one missing word changes everything! Duh.
§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 5:18:31 pm PDT #25785 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just dropped in a picture--the photo of John and Adam, and then went on to explain why I don't wish twenty years of celibacy on anyone, no matter how mission-oriented they are.
Like, seriously, why would you even want that for a character you like?
(Maybe they missed the end of S5? It's not like it's a dropped plotline...well, okay, until they ditched Adam in hell, but whatevs! Save the hot brothers, I always say. Always.)
Amy - Jul 05, 2012 5:41:17 pm PDT #25786 of 30002
Because books.
John was grieving, but he was also human. Also, sex does not always (or even usually) = huge emotional commitment, or even emotion at all. Sometimes it's just sex, which is also fine.
§ ita § - Jul 05, 2012 6:29:50 pm PDT #25787 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This is a fan that also hopes Jimmy is alive in there, so CLEARLY cannot be trusted with characters.
::hugs them tight to her bosoms::
Amy - Jul 05, 2012 6:46:24 pm PDT #25788 of 30002
Because books.
God, why would you want that for him?