Same here. And now I want examples of the kishotenketsu, so I can get a feel for what it means.

I do think the premise of its manifestation in the actual world of things happening (I think some people call it the "real" world, but that's so judgemental, isn't it?) is a bit...optimistic. Does it even really apply to how people parse history?

Surely we're not more violent (or feeling more violent) than Japan because all our stories are an odd number of acts. (If you need any other instances of summing things up more than they bear, I can be reached at my profile email address, and am happy to trivialise any complex position you wish).

It's just a different approach, and if you dug into it deep enough, you'd find motivations there that would probably serve as conflict anyway. (i.e. Why did he get the other guy a soda? Is he guilty about something? Is he in love? Does he owe him a drink?)

Whatever you want to call it, I just want a story to move somehow. Even in PWP, at least you get the action of the, uh, act itself, and the participants' reactions, which are (when they're done right) character notes.

Yeah--I'm wondering if it's a different lens or a different structure, I guess. And for that, I need examples.

It's ... both, I think? I'd have to see examples, too.

Things are getting hot and heavy in this particular fic. One character pulls out his duck.

I immediately thought, "that poor duck!" and had to skip to the end of the scene so I wouldn't be traumatized.

Coffee.

Dean song came up on my playlist. "Orange Sky" by Alexi Murdoch.

"Well I had a dream I stood beneath an orange sky With my brother standing by I said Brother, you know you know It’s a long road we’ve been walking on Brother you know it is you know it is Such a long road we’ve been walking on

But sister you know I’m so weary And you know sister My hearts been broken Sometimes, sometimes My mind is too strong to carry on Too strong to carry on

When I am alone When I’ve thrown off the weight of this crazy stone When I've lost all care for the things I own That's when I miss you, that's when I miss you You who are my home And here is what I know now Here is what I know now Goes like this... In your love, my salvation lies In your love, in your love, in your love"

I'm explaining the sister stuff as Jo reappearing from the dead in that episode I can't bring myself to watch again.

Hell, maybe it's a Sam song, too. It's mutual, after all. I guess as a Dean!girl my mind goes to him first.

Man, I'd love to see a gen vid to this.

One character pulls out his duck? What does that mean?

LOOK at the beard. He's a total mountain moose now. I approve.

Amy, replace the u with an i.

Oh, that's rather obvious, and no, I didn't get it either, Amy. I wanted it to be a cock, but it was way too far away.