Wesley: We're going to bring Angelus in alive. Connor: No we're not. Gunn: I thought you said capturing him wasn't an option. Wesley: Changed my mind. Connor: Change it back.

'Why We Fight'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - May 31, 2012 4:38:57 pm PDT #25398 of 30002
Because books.

And that's why I stay here. ::nods::


§ ita § - May 31, 2012 5:05:02 pm PDT #25399 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, if Dean drives off into the sunset, then no one will have to worry about a Sassy friendship. No one will have to worry about Sam. Because Dean could totally make that choice.

I'm noticing a bit of a weird mini-trend--making Gabriel Cas' younger brother. I have no idea how one of the greatest and most powerful angels, one who's seen the face of God, gets to be Sam's age JUST SO YOU DON'T FEEL CREEPY PAIRING THEM.


Amy - Jun 01, 2012 4:56:18 pm PDT #25400 of 30002
Because books.

Hey, I was wrong! In Out With the Old, Dean's driving a fairly recent small pickup.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2012 5:15:51 pm PDT #25401 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's the one where I was thinking it was Sam's car, since it's what he was driving when he almost feel asleep. And Dean was driving something else when they were split up then, right?


Amy - Jun 01, 2012 5:20:51 pm PDT #25402 of 30002
Because books.

Um ... maybe? I missed most of it because I was watching the Mets game, but the car they drove to Frank's was the pickup with the U-Haul on the back.


Juliebird - Jun 01, 2012 5:21:17 pm PDT #25403 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

That's actually pretty appropriate, given the ep title.

Back to the Daphne thing (groans all around), I think the fascination for me is why, from a narrative point, say that they are married? And then do nothing beyond her two minutes of screen time? To say "married" is to allude to something a lot more complicated than "friends", or "comrades in Gods Army", where the platonic part is implied, sex may be a part of it, but mostly I could see "God set Emmanuelle on my path" and the two of them forging a life together. Still complicated and mysterious in the sense of all that we didn't see. But for it to be "marriage" . . . that involves a lot of emotions that seem rushed in the timespan given. And, again I question the meta: why choose that over the other? Is there a narrative purpose? Is there a narrative purpose that is logical and valid? Is it a shorthand for something I'm too obtuse to see? Because I really don't see Daphne returning in Season 8 (and if she does, with how she was cast aside so easily this season, I might be grumpy).

And that seems to be a pattern with me and Show: they do something with a character that makes me unhappy. So, damage done. Which makes me not want them to try and retcon it or fix it some way, which basically means that I prefer them to sweep their (IMO) mistakes under the rug and pretend they never happened, because addressing them at such a later date would just exacerbate the wrongness of the first instance, and now I am enabling (theoretically, since of course my whims have no bearing on the writing of Show) bad storytelling. This is all subjective, of course.

Yet, I still love it.


quester - Jun 01, 2012 5:24:01 pm PDT #25404 of 30002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I think Dean was driving a Camero or some such.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2012 5:33:21 pm PDT #25405 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's at the end, right? My memory had been that they had separate cars while they were in town...

The car visible as they stand by the water at the start is an old two-seater (I'm crap at the types, but it makes me think of a Firebird. It has those holes in the bonnet.) And that's the same car they take to the police station, and put the cursed shoes into...it's what they drive to the tea kettle woman...then Dean gets into it and drives away, and Sam heads around the corner, presumably to steal the pickup we see him driving later, and they made the pragmatic call not to tow the UHAUL with the old car, I'm guessing.

So I'm sticking to my thesis (until I get contradicted) that Dean's pretty methodical about the cars he steals, and Sam couldn't care less.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2012 5:36:14 pm PDT #25406 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As far as Emmanuel being married, I supposed that was pretty much a "you'd never guess!" and a "he did what? What's happened to him??" above and beyond what simple amnesia gets you. That makes it sound like he has a life, with connections to people--almost like he'd made it out, the way the boys try and hook up for each other, but once it happens to Cas there is no hesitation before yanking him back into a world of demons and angels.

He almost won, man! But, it would have been short-lived, so it's a good thing Dean needed to use him when he did.


Amy - Jun 01, 2012 5:42:12 pm PDT #25407 of 30002
Because books.

The pickup probably has a hitch.