And I don't want to cast aspersions when it comes to Lisa, but that choice and Dean I don't think could be honest or work out. She's got priorities and responsibilities that are just not compatible with his with no value judgement attached. He is a hunter. He might not value it or respect it, but if he's honest he enjoys it and it fulfills him. And he's not going to be at peace until he works all the way through it. And he just can't have any real relationships while suppressing or denying that. Sam's a brother, Bobby's a father, and they don't really have a choice (they do, but you know what I mean). Cas, in a way doesn't have a choice--he's not supposed to choose Dean. But he keeps doing it. Even when he works with Crowley he's choosing to save what Dean values, and protect Dean from the fight at the same time. All Dean, all the time. And Dean? In no way values or acknowledges that because I don't think he understands that people can choose him. So he doesn't try and facilitate it in any way because he's never had to negotiate a relationship and that's why the repeated looks of betrayal on Cas' face break my heart so much. One choice he's made, and Dean's a dick about it. And he fucks it up so badly he has to get Dean's forgiveness anyway--who's taught him relationships other than Dean?

Also..blah blah blah...feels.

That's true -- everyone he loves is generally obligated to love him (in his eyes), or wants something from him. And his only previous more-than-one-night (or weekend) relationship was with Cassie, who rejected him because of what he was.

I think he was more honest with Lisa than he might have been if she hadn't seen for herself what he did, but I absolutely agree that he never would have been totally comfortable with that life. I got the strong impression from the first two episodes (three maybe?) of S6 that he really did love her, and Ben, and that there was certainly an element of that life he enjoyed, so I don't think he was completely unhappy. But the look on his face when he uncovered the Impala to join Sam again really said it all.

Hell, Sam just gave birth to Gabriel's baby, and I thought "Oh, well, I've gotten this far..."

Was it at least an actual baby? I can't figure out where people have come up with egg-fiction. Because the guys have sex with angels (who have wings) when they manage to get themselves pregnant, it's with an egg? Because angels are part bird, maybe? I've pretty much given up on all mpreg.

There's a hellatus hurt!Dean prompt up

Just as an FYI, there's also a Coment Fic Meme for both Sam and Dean starting up on LJ.

He loved her as much as he could? I don't think it was enough for a conventional, committed, adult relationship. Not least of all because it was so dramatically less than he loved Sam, of course. Which doesn't inherently make the amount he loves her low, as much as ridic OTT Sam-love. And if she's not totally okay with that, they can't be okay, and it's another way in which he can't be himself.

(Needless to say my favourite D/C includes Cas totally getting he's at best #2 in priorities)

Basically, if you end up with Dean in a world with no Sam or Cas, is he really able to consent?

And I do kind of mean that, mostly the missing Sam part.

Was it at least an actual baby?

Gabriel fisted it out of his soul?

It was really sudden. I somehow missed the premise of the WIP, that it was pair bonding for angel reproduction...

Absolutely, Dean's love for Lisa is nothing like his love for Sam, in intensity and history and all kinds of stuff. I appreciate that he genuinely liked and respected her (which doesn't always go hand in hand with love, and is just as important, to me), but I would be willing to say he was mostly *in love* with the idea of being in love, being in a relationship like that, since he never had been before, and hadn't really dared to want it since Cassie.

Peach pie:

I'm reading a Dean-gets-out-of-Purgatory fic now (which is killing me, by the way), and I have something to add to what I'd want to see wrt Dean is a BEARD. A real beard. Now, please.

OH MY GOD.

Tom Hardy has been revving me up for this moment for months, but if Cas and Dean have beards of Purgatory and Sam has a beard of too-distracted-looking-for-my-brother, I could die happy.

I'm surprised how many fics I've seen so far where Cas leaves Dean in Purgatory. I can see him being separated from Dean there in many scenarios, but if Leviathan can't leave Purgatory without help, and angels are less powerful, nevermind the overweening personal responsibility...it just doesn't make sense as a choice.

The Dean gets out of Purgatory fic I mentioned above. It's gen, it's not too long, it is a little graphic horror imagery-wise, and there's a character death ita won't like. But it's so good! BOYS.

I just looked to see who bought it, and please put major character death. But possibly I skimmed it wrong. My brain is swiss cheese right now. I think finding Wolfpack took too much out of me.