Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Mar 18, 2012 6:51:04 pm PDT #24550 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Dark Angel wasn't the writers' decision, though. Ackles was brought in as a love interest for Max, and the plan was to sideline Logan. Weatherly and Alba were co-producers, and engaged at the time. And Weatherly wanted to keep his acting gig, so he and Alba pressured the writers to reduce JA's role. There is a famous anecdote of Weatherly on set with a new script, counting his lines and JA's, to make sure Logan had more lines.

Castiel's role has been driven first by fan response and ratings. I give the character and Misha's willingness to engage and entertain fandom credit for rescuing a show on the edge of cancellation. I think only secondarily was his storyline a consideration. The writers could have done something else with his character and kept him on board. Just conjecture on my part, of course.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 5:44:29 am PDT #24551 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is this the same trailer that aired after the ep: [link] ? I'll have to go look. It looks like it's been on the CW, anyway.


Typo Boy - Mar 19, 2012 7:38:28 am PDT #24552 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Didn't Collins say he wanted to do less with the show? If it was Collin's decision, the rest of the show did not have a lot of choice.


Amy - Mar 19, 2012 7:51:06 am PDT #24553 of 30002
Because books.

Weatherly and Alba were co-producers, and engaged at the time. And Weatherly wanted to keep his acting gig, so he and Alba pressured the writers to reduce JA's role.

How does that end up with him being in the whole second season?

I thought they liked what they saw of him when he was in the one S1 episode, and they expanded the role from there.

Even if it was a producer's decision to keep Misha on, the writers did well with it, and so did Misha.

I think only secondarily was his storyline a consideration.

I don't know what the specific reasoning for keeping him was, but his storyline doesn't feel like a throwaway to me. I'm not sure what you mean above -- they have to write and film things to air long before fans can even have a reaction to the bulk of it.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 9:20:10 am PDT #24554 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm actually considering a coffee date with a guy on OK Cupid just because he's the first one to mention Supernatural to me after reading my profile. One other guy mentioned Buffy before I took any reference to Whedon out (not sure why I did that), and that's been it for guys tapping into my interests. I wonder why they don't try that. They totally should.


JenP - Mar 19, 2012 10:06:46 am PDT #24555 of 30002

From the trailer ita ! linked to a couple posts back, do we know who the woman is standing next to him when he's talking to Cas... or the dude who looks like Cas?


Amy - Mar 19, 2012 10:11:57 am PDT #24556 of 30002
Because books.

I think that's Meg . No? ETA: Okay, I watched again and now I'm not sure. But the wardrobe is the same.

he's the first one to mention Supernatural

Score.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 10:30:32 am PDT #24557 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I doublechecked, and yeah, that's the trailer after the episode, and that's Meg, and apparently that's Cas.

AND PART OF HIM ALWAYS BELIEVED CAS WOULD BE BACK.

So, no crushing hug, it looks like. It looks like, in fact, he says it to his back. But it's choked up, and it's needy, and it's Sammified. I'm good to see how it turns out.

I just hope it's not at the end of the episode.


Amy - Mar 19, 2012 10:35:07 am PDT #24558 of 30002
Because books.

AND PART OF HIM ALWAYS BELIEVED CAS WOULD BE BACK.

That made me sniffle. Oh, DEAN.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 10:52:09 am PDT #24559 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If he gave back the trenchcoat, a part of me would die inside of sheer happiness.