Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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Juliebird - Feb 16, 2012 5:09:46 pm PST #24205 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Well, he says he "went mortal" and is "all but human" and "not an angel anymore". Also, when he goes all WHOA on Dean, he's looking at Dean's feet (or crotch), not his relatively less tortured face. So, uh, Cas recognized Dean's boots as ones he hasn't worn in five years or more, perhaps?

Definitely writer inconsistencies. As for the angels dying, maybe there were rogue angels on the side of Hell? /wank. And then Dean killing an angel. Maybe there's a difference between angels dying in vessels and angels dying in their true form? Although, I'd think it more logical that an angel dying in a vessel to be less surprising than them dying in battle on a celestial plane.


Amy - Feb 16, 2012 5:16:31 pm PST #24206 of 30002
Because books.

I thought it would have been angels in vessels dying, because at that point the rift between the angels wasn't yet known. Unless I'm not remembering right.

I should rewatch.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2012 5:50:11 pm PST #24207 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Even Raphael had a vessel killed out from under him, so it is possible that really competent demons were able to surprise a few angels and inconvenience them with unexpected vessel shopping during the whole 66 Seals mess.


Juliebird - Feb 16, 2012 6:02:44 pm PST #24208 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Matt, when was that? I only remember Balthazar using the Sodom and Gommorah crystal on him.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2012 6:04:19 pm PST #24209 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm assuming that was it. His vessel was killed.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2012 6:08:39 pm PST #24210 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yep. Raphael himself (itself?) was merely inconvenienced, but apparently the host was killed dead enough that resurrection wasn't practical.


Juliebird - Feb 16, 2012 6:19:03 pm PST #24211 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'd set that as a different instance, in that it was an angel that wielded the weapon, and that it was a heavenly weapon.


Juliebird - Feb 16, 2012 7:30:01 pm PST #24212 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

serial: fic people, PSA, Cas' hair, even in The End, has never been long enough to "flop into his eyes".

I'm rereading fossarian's mafia AU to make up for the two dreadful recent entries, and even she makes this mistake. I can forgive an AU for giving Cas longer hair. But in a fic that makes Cas such an effiecient killer, having hair a length that gets in the eyes is just a professional blunder. And he wouldn't wear the trenchcoat. It'd be like high heels and skirts and long hair on a badass girl (realistically, not on TeeVee).


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2012 8:08:15 pm PST #24213 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unless you're literally in battle, as opposed to first line of urban defense, I will give a guy hair long enough to flop in his eyes (not in his mouth) . And the coat--plenty of them on fighting men. That's not a rarity,


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2012 8:08:18 pm PST #24214 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unless you're literally in battle, as opposed to first line of urban defense, I will give a guy hair long enough to flop in his eyes (not in his mouth) . And the coat--plenty of them on fighting men. That's not a rarity,