Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled.

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Dec 29, 2011 2:59:09 pm PST #23363 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

IO9 picked a scene from Death's Door as one of the best TV moments of 2011: [link]

Bye Bobby! Requiescat in pace!


Juliebird - Dec 30, 2011 4:33:11 pm PST #23364 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

So I finished The Hunger Games trilogy (bye vacation, it was nice knowing you!), and I have to say, as I'm rereading trinityofone's fusion, how phenomenal her story is. I, I almost like it better than Collin's story.

But, but, but, wow, they are so absolutely different. There's no line stealing, or scene stealing, there's no mapping of anything at all beyond "12 districts, kids fight to the death".

I am flabbergasted with how impressed I am.

I also blame trinityofone for being annoyed with much of The Hunger Games, because it wasn't like her fic.


Amy - Dec 30, 2011 5:06:27 pm PST #23365 of 30002
Because books.

I'm not really sure how to read your post, having not read the fic, so.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2011 5:13:19 pm PST #23366 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've read the fic, and personally don't find the two comparable.

I like trinityofone's fic, but it had nothing on the books for me. Nothing. The level of emotional reaction was not even remotely equivalent. Even though she had characters that have been drawn in years of detail (well, at least in Dean's case) and relationships that have been dealt with in great depth, *she* didn't bring anything to the premise or the relationships or the characters that approaches what Collins did with Kat and Prim and Gale and Peeta. The complexity's not there, of necessity, but neither is the depth of emotion, or harrowing trauma or the level of dilemmas that Collins posited.

She didn't gut me at all, and that's the trademark of what the trilogy did to me.


Juliebird - Dec 30, 2011 5:16:06 pm PST #23367 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Basically, "Bird of Paradise" kicks "The Hunger Games" bootay. And trinityofone rocks.

There are so many things about the fic that I adored that are either lacking in the novels, or seem to be a direct and deliberate contradiction to the novels, and I like the fic bits better. Or, the novel bits rubbed me wrong because I read and loved the fic first.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2011 5:18:38 pm PST #23368 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Basically, "Bird of Paradise" kicks "The Hunger Games" bootay.

Didn't you just say you liked Hunger Games better ("I almost like it better" wrt to the fic)? I'm confused.


Juliebird - Dec 30, 2011 5:33:39 pm PST #23369 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I was hesitant to say that I like it better, because there is the word count allowing for more world building and side characters, and the not relying on pre-existing canon to tell a story, so it has that in its corner. OTOH, I really despised the reality-TV aspect of the trilogy, and the overwrought (IMO) love triangle. I have a lot of other issues with the trilogy, that I don't think are appropriate to go into in this thread.

The short of it is that I loved the fic before I ever read The Hunger Games, and after finishing the novels, I'm more impressed with the fic for being it's own thing.


§ ita § - Dec 31, 2011 7:35:31 pm PST #23370 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

OMG, can someone write The Eagle Dean/Castiel? For sure Dean is the dishonoured Roman soldier that has to pretend to be Castiel's slave in order to restore John Winchester's honour!

There are oaths of honour and not leaving and lots of fighting and shit. It's entirely perfect.

Where do I send this?


Amy - Dec 31, 2011 8:47:46 pm PST #23371 of 30002
Because books.

I thought you hated slave!fic!

I had no idea The Eagle was in any way Roman. I guess I assumed it was some US military movie.


sumi - Dec 31, 2011 8:51:01 pm PST #23372 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Is that the movie based on the Eagle of the Ninth? (By Rosemary Sutcliffe)

Weren't most Romans slaves rather than citizens?