May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Morgana - Nov 08, 2011 5:58:38 pm PST #22724 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

and slicing his palm open

Yes, he looked very fierce and comitted to action and whatnot. However, it is an incredibly stupid thing to slice open your hand if you expect to need to hold weapons and use your hands to fight. I know they needed the blood, but they didn't need it from the palm of his hand. I'd hope a soldier would have known better.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2011 6:04:37 pm PST #22725 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, it was his left, It's a little something,


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 6:09:54 pm PST #22726 of 30002
Because books.

Slicing his palm open is a more dramatic visual choice, though. This is TV, after all.

I think John's tour in Vietnam is a huge plot hole -- I'm not entirely sure the dates line up, even. But I'm too tired to look it up now. I think I once figured he couldn't have done more than one, based on his age and when the war ended.


Strix - Nov 08, 2011 7:25:30 pm PST #22727 of 30002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Dean is completely smart enough to suceed in a number of fields.

I think, however, he would need to be his own boss of something he gave a good damn about (HAI DEAN WE HAS STUFF IN COMMON!) because he would have serious authority issues and a low tolerance for bureaucracy and bullshit.


Strix - Nov 08, 2011 7:27:22 pm PST #22728 of 30002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

ION...SexyGeekLethalSam is hot like fire, but Dean still SO Does It For Me...

Random thought is random.


Typo Boy - Nov 08, 2011 7:30:34 pm PST #22729 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And there are a hell of a lot places in the U.S. where learning how to shoot growing up is not alternative. John had probably hunted (in the non-supernatural sense) long before he went into the military.


Anne W. - Nov 09, 2011 1:12:31 am PST #22730 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I do think the VW bus was something John was going for because it was what Mary wanted. He didn't take that much convincing to go for the Impala.

He really switched that back on without hesitation. As soon as he believed, he was a soldier again.

One thing I've seen in reference to Marines is that a big part of the culture is "there is no such thing as an ex-Marine." One thing I sometimes wonder, given that we see a photo of older!John in military gear, is if he was in the reserves for a while--although I'm not sure how he'd work that with being a small business owner.

I think John's tour in Vietnam is a huge plot hole -- I'm not entirely sure the dates line up, even.

If you go by what battallion he was in, per Show, the latest John could have been there was 1971--if you want to be a stickler for military history and not declare the entire 'verse slightly AU. His military service would not have ended right after his tour of duty in Vietnam, so he would have been (most likely) at Camp Pendleton for a while before returning to Lawrence. So, back from Vietnam in late '71, back to Lawrence in early '73, meaning there would have been some time for re-entry before going back home. The dates work, but barely.

Then, if you take the birthdate on the headstone on "What is..." as canon and not just Dean's subconscious plugging in the wrong date, it all falls apart again.

(Why yes, I may have researched this a little...)


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2011 4:51:40 am PST #22731 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ah, Anne. It's nice to know I'm not the most obsessive one around here. I barely do any research that doesn't involve trawling canon or exhausting just my own knowledge of how things go. Which isn't to say I don't do that a *lot*. I just always feel cozy with people either side of me on the continuum.

Sneak peeks: [link] [link]

The first one is the whole stretch between the first scene (Dean opening the door) and the second (the veiled bride coming in) of the trailer. So no bride reveal, just Sam and Dean conversation, which illuminates exactly nothing and doesn't even include all of what we heard in the trailer.

Second one reveals a guest star who I'm sincerely hoping is not the bride--it's their initial meeting with Dean, and it lasts all of 10 seconds. Pretty paltry stuff, actually. But I'm glad. I don't want to know who she is, but I want to feel a little more spoilt.


Amy - Nov 09, 2011 4:55:58 am PST #22732 of 30002
Because books.

Are they in Vegas? Because that would be awesome.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2011 5:00:27 am PST #22733 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not even that much info.