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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


P.M. Marc - Nov 08, 2011 4:25:50 pm PST #22708 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If you're a skilled mechanic with a good clientele, you can be way more than middle class, for sure.

Middle class income, but there are still class divides between blue collar and white collar work. Our unspoken class system in the US is a complex clusterfuck.


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 4:28:29 pm PST #22709 of 30002
Because books.

Very true. But I'd happily have the income (and not ALL mechanics earn that well, obvs) and be considered blue collar. I think my neighbors two blocks over consider us blue-collar-adjacent, because my block definitely skews that way.

Which is fine with me, although I guess I'd feel different if I owned (property values blah blah).

JDM was on Craig Ferguson last night, and they discussed bifocals, babies, sex while babies are napping, and boners. I can die happy now.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2011 4:42:29 pm PST #22710 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dean has the capability to be a sales manager. He could run a shop, easy, or more than one. That could put him safely out of blue collar, right?


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 4:48:04 pm PST #22711 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, yeah. And if you own your own shop, I think that automatically elevates you above blue collar.

Not that I think Dean would care, particularly. John was pretty solidly blue collar before the fire, which is the barometer that would matter to Dean.

Sam is another story. Sam was dreaming of middle class in the crib, I'm pretty sure. What I love is the role reversal -- Dean got the chance to live it, and expressed interest in it even before that, and Sam couldn't give a shit about it anymore.

Although his bride might. ::nods::


Stephanie - Nov 08, 2011 4:49:37 pm PST #22712 of 30002
Trust my rage

Dean was an account executive in that one ep where Sam was the phone sales guy.


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 4:51:13 pm PST #22713 of 30002
Because books.

But he wasn't Dean Winchester in that world.


Stephanie - Nov 08, 2011 4:54:23 pm PST #22714 of 30002
Trust my rage

I thought Zachariah said he was - just with different beginnings? But I admit I am terrible at remembering those details. (Well, I now that I think about it, they weren't brothers. So I guess he wasn't Dean.)


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 4:56:18 pm PST #22715 of 30002
Because books.

Yeah, his parents were "Ellen and Bob" and he had a sister named Jo. Sam never mentioned his parents, but he did have a girlfriend named Madison that he had broken up with.

Without the Winchester baptism of fire, they can't really be the same people.


Stephanie - Nov 08, 2011 4:58:31 pm PST #22716 of 30002
Trust my rage

Yeah. You know, I should rewatch from the beginning. I've seen lots of my favorites several times, but I should do an entire rewatch.

I should do that with Buffy too. It's been a while.


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 5:03:01 pm PST #22717 of 30002
Because books.

I really want to do it with Angel, actually.