Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Typo Boy - Oct 14, 2011 8:31:35 pm PDT #22286 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Random thought 1: Dean did not get laid in tonight's episode, because he was cockblocked by Osiris. That is a reversal of the way things normally go for that particular god.

Random thought 2: Maybe they should consider finding a Psychiatrist who knows about the supernatural. Sam made a smartass remark about that along the lines of "What will they do, give me drugs?" But there are a lot of mental illness for which various pharmaceuticals can relieve or control major symptoms of. If he ever gets tired of seeing Lucifer in the mirror when he brushes his teeth, there are might be something that could make that less likely.


Beverly - Oct 14, 2011 10:03:50 pm PDT #22287 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I've really stopped discussing show with anybody except here and with a few like-minded friends. Occasionally I'll take a quick look at someone on my flist's review or meta post. But I haven't really been looking for discussion--I'm all too aware of what I'd probably find.

I was struck by how *young* both brothers looked in the flashback montage, especially Dean. (The crying scene was in Heaven and Hell, S4, BTW). I was SO hoping Dean would 'fess up about Amy, but nooooo. If these guys ever just honestly talked to each other the world would probably stutter on its axis.

For those who follow the actors, I found a report of Toronto con that's a bit more revealing than most. She mentions convention roles I knew were true at Chicago Con in 07, but I'd thought things had changed somewhat since then. Apparently not. I found it interesting, anyway. It's here.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 15, 2011 5:15:07 am PDT #22288 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I didn't like it much, aside from it being nice to see Jo again. I'd hoped that "Hammer of the Gods" meant they would treat pagan deities with a little more respect moving forward. Osiris did not impress. (I do think throwing in a couple MotW eps was a good idea, just not this particular one.)


Marcia - Oct 15, 2011 12:12:31 pm PDT #22289 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

Osiris did not impress.

This. To draw out Dean's profound sense of guilt using Osiris as judge and jury, and Jo as first witness, was too anvil-ish to me. And although I found the scene with Dean and Jo sweet, I didn't need this story to tell me Dean is damaged and over-flowing with self-loathing and guilt. Plus, who didn't know Sam was going to show up in the nick of time and impale Osiris with a shofar?

Some elements were nice, but overall... meh.


SailAweigh - Oct 15, 2011 12:46:01 pm PDT #22290 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

It was a very workmanlike episode. I didn't feel it really brought much new to the mix, except maybe that Sam feels he's healing faster than Dean does. But it was still enjoyable. It gave us the boys working together, Sam saving Dean, a nice peek at Jo. It's kind of like a comfort food episode, nothing you'd write home about, but there are times you're going to keep going back for it because it sticks to the ribs.


Cass - Oct 15, 2011 1:26:37 pm PDT #22291 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I didn't dislike it.

I mean, I think gods should be treated with a little more respect and be a little harder to kill, even only for a few centuries. Sharpened ram's horns aren't exactly rare and the skill needed could be found in your basic street thug. And I miss where there were things that really frightened the Winchesters. Actual demons, angels and gods should scare you.

And Dean's guilt is always a funny thing. He's massively guilty for things like Sam about which I don't think he needs to feel ~all~ of the guilt. So I am glad to see he's feeling some guilt about Amy. Though the wrongness, for me, wasn't just the lying to Sam. Still, he's not just shoving the guilt all aside, so that's a good thing for me.

Things I really liked were getting back to MotW eps while really remembering the past. And Dean saying that when ghosts come to go after him, they've got a valid case for revenge. Sam's hair. The guy just looked good. And, wow, Dean is attractive. No wonder the bartender went from therapist with unlimited alcohol to, hmm, he'd be fun tonight.

So emotionally-stunted brothers, trying to save people, having a case that is wrapped up but evokes their past and the Impala is okay? I liked the ep overall.


JenP - Oct 15, 2011 3:06:38 pm PDT #22292 of 30002

Sam's hair. The guy just looked good.

Oh, ha! I'm glad you said that. I thought I was weirdly obsessing over hair again (see: W13), but it did look good, didn't it?

Yeah, I thought it was a perfectly cromulent episode. Nothing out of the park, but so much of what I like. The funny, the hot, the MotW, dealing with "stuff." Oh, and how glad was I to hear Sam say he wasn't holding on to every damn thing and wallowing. You go, Sam. With your fabulous hair and your healing and shit. Smooches.

Dean. Oh, honey. I wish for you to get there, too.


Juliebird - Oct 15, 2011 3:25:54 pm PDT #22293 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Sam not having any guilt pinged for two reasons: 1) Lots of people feel guilty but Osiris wasn't targeting them all, just the ones he ran into at the bar, so it seems to me that it was an awkward and invalid segue into Sam's guilt or lackthereof and

2) Does it do away with the theory that maybe some part of Sam wants to die, hence Harvey trying to get him to kill himself? Is Harvey gone now? So that issue is gone? Or the issue is gone so Harvey is therefore gone?

I thought the Dean/Jo scene was great, but the whole premise surrounding it was too hamfisted to me, too ASS.


Typo Boy - Oct 15, 2011 3:42:05 pm PDT #22294 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think I would be more OK with pagan Gods being not so awesome, if they did not make God, and angels and demons so fucking powerful and migh-unstopabble. Pagan gods seem lower on the food change than demons a lot of the time, let alone angels. Not consistent. Kali was powerful enough it took Lucifer to take her down. But mostly - pagan gods are just MOTW. Angels and even demons a lot of the time are far more.


Cass - Oct 15, 2011 3:42:10 pm PDT #22295 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

You go, Sam. With your fabulous hair and your healing and shit. Smooches.

That part was pretty keen. I mean, he spanked his inner moppet and is getting over some of it. Atone, amends, change how you'll do things from now on or whatever but you can't change the past. You can change your hair. And heal. Um, and see Lucifer. But no one is perfect in this 'verse.

Maybe Dean has had good hair for so long that he never realized.