They should film that story and show it every Christmas.

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Consuela - May 08, 2009 1:26:28 pm PDT #2223 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

That episode forced me to write a story.

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Damn episode. ::sniffs::


Theresa - May 08, 2009 2:31:19 pm PDT #2224 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

What Consuela said.

As a viewer I was operating on Dean's level of perception until the wishing well episode when Sam didn't want to wish to be back with Jess. I did the dog head tilt and finally started to accept that Sam really wasn't Season 1 Sam anymore and the change had been earned (boy howdy) even if not every minute was seen on screen.

Dean was a father to Sam. As much as Dean tried to protect Sam and give him little pieces of hope, to see Sam embrace everything that Dean was raised to hate, Dean has to be going out of his mind. Not only was he willing to take the chance that Sam might die detoxing, I can accept him wishing for it (for just a split second and then feeling really guilty) even if only subconsciously. To not have to protect Sam anymore--what a relief that would be. "Lay your weary head to rest"

Kansas is playing here in Wichita tonight btw.

Parallelly Sam has an all time high hate-on for himself. He was so judgmental of PresentSam with FordSam and I almost cried when PresentSam told FordSam to "grow up!" He's showing Dean level of self hate. And how could he not resent Dean for not seeing who he really is? How could he not resent Dean for calling him a monster?

eta: Also 'Suela's story rocks!!


Beverly - May 08, 2009 2:39:44 pm PDT #2225 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

'Suela, I love that story. Soooo much. I want them to film it and show it a year from now, and every Christmas in syndication.


Beverly - May 08, 2009 2:46:04 pm PDT #2226 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

::nodding along with Austin::

Sam was taunted with a wish to let Dean go, not to have to protect his weakened brother, give up responsibility for him. And now Dean's getting the same temptation. It hurt so badly when hallucination Dean called Sam a monster, and I think it actually took some of the awful sting out of it when real Dean said it later. It didn't hurt, it made Sam angry.

And Colin Ford is just a marvel. JP said they did spend some time together working on lines, and that would have been fun to watch, I think. Two professionals. The kid is so good.

"Grow up." "Boo hoo." Oh, Sammy.


Consuela - May 08, 2009 3:03:18 pm PDT #2227 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have to admit that I'm amused to have been so entirely wrong in my theory about Sam going bad: instead of getting angry and going off to join the bad guys, Sam is competing with Dean to be the one who stops the apocalypse.

"I get to!"

"No, I get to!"

Very eight years old, really.

And of course Sam hasn't (apparently) figured out that he's being strung along, that what Ruby's asking him to do will probably start the apocalypse. Because that's it, isn't it? Lilith's death at the final seal is what opens the final seal. Which is why Lilith's not wrong when she says she's not going to survive.

I haven't yet figured out how Dean's being misled, but it's clear he is. Perhaps the idea is that whoever kills Lilith at the final seal gets a leg up on the other party?


Anne W. - May 08, 2009 3:38:06 pm PDT #2228 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The whole Angels vs. Demons thing is reminding me in some ways of a Cold War spy novel, especially in regards to what's happening with Castiel as Dean's "handler."


Typo Boy - May 08, 2009 3:50:21 pm PDT #2229 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Because that's it, isn't it? Lilith's death at the final seal is what opens the final seal. Which is why Lilith's not wrong when she says she's not going to survive.

Hah! This sounds extremely plausible.


brenda m - May 09, 2009 5:50:54 am PDT #2230 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm glad to see glimmers of original Cas remain, in the scene with Dean and especially in the scene with Anna, where he just looked wrecked.

Oh boys. I was crying when Sam was hallucinating Dean while Dean was drawing his line in the sand with Bobby.

Lucifer's first - why do I not believe that refers to Lillith?


Marcia - May 09, 2009 2:28:15 pm PDT #2231 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

Lucifer's first - why do I not believe that refers to Lillith?

That same niggling thought occurred to me. Ruby never confirmed Sam's assumption outright. I'm still mulling over whether Lucifer's first was Ruby.


Lee - May 09, 2009 2:31:48 pm PDT #2232 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was wondering about that too. Perkins "Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?" May 7, 2009 10:10:11 pm PDT

I wasn't 100% serious, but I also thought we weren't supposed to be sure that the first demon was Lilith.