something is rotten in the state of Deanmark

Ha! Love it.

I've been thinking a bit more, and I found myself coming back to the idea that if the kid had not been in the equation, if Amy had been killing because she had been getting sick, the ending might have seemed a lot cleaner, morally speaking.

Given the stress the boys are under, and how helpless Dean feels in the fallout of what happened with Castiel and after having been laid up for weeks and having Sam to deal with, I could see him not thinking things through past the point of clean up whatever mess I can clean up now. He didn't plan for having to deal with Amy's son, and I think Joshua showing up when he did probably messed with Dean's head a lot, on quite a number of fronts. And Dean's head doesn't need any more messing with right now.

Bobby's attitude towards Dean in the episode seems fitting if he's been dealing with three weeks of Dean slowly (or not so slowly) unraveling. Since this season's first episode, there's been a lot of Dean pretending he's holding it together and Bobby trying to call him on it. Also, I can only imagine how Bobby would have reacted after he got that Thelma and Louise message from Dean in the wake of the fire.

Right now, Sam, even with his persistently shaky grasp on reality, seems more sane and grounded to me than Dean does. He's not the brother who's the ticking time bomb, IMO.

Anyhow, I'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out, but so far I'm really enjoying what they're doing this season.

This thread is so weird right now. Too many Amys! It's confusing.

so far I'm really enjoying what they're doing this season

God, me too. I mean, I always do in the moment. It's only when some time passes that I can look back and say, yeah, S3, not their best work. But even when it's not their best (let's say ... All Dogs Go to Heaven, or the ghost ship) there are always ALWAYS worthwhile moments.

To wit, Dean in a thigh holster and on a rooftop as a sniper, and Dean in a tux.

Oh, yes. I'm loving the season so far.

Someone on IO9 said that Sam will beat Dean down when he finds out Dean killed Amy. I tried to point out their relationship doesn't work that way, but he told me I don't understand brothers.

Which isn't the point. Sam and Dean don't work that way. Sam only beats up Dean when he's under an influence. He may be very upset and argue a lot, but he won't get physical, don't you think?

I agree. I think especially right now, Sam is being very careful with every action he takes. He's not going to beat the shit out of Dean. When has he ever done that, aside from when he was ready to go kill Lilith and way high on demon blood? Never, is when.

The guy has accused me of not paying attention.

Yeah, dude. Because that's something I do. Not pay attention to the brotherly dynamics on Supernatural. Someone's new.

Loving this discussion.

Can you see this? Jensen must have eaten magic beans!

Not pay attention to the brotherly dynamics on Supernatural. Someone's new.

I didn't even think you watched this show.

Jensen must have eaten magic beans!

Are you thinking that's Jared in the cap (and Jensen looks as tall as he does)? Because I'm pretty sure that's not Jared.

From all the photos and vids from TorontoCon this weekend, that's the shirt and the hat Jared was wearing onstage and off. There are more pictures of him peeking in the windows of the locked Impala a fan drove, wearing the same shirt and hat. I'm 99% sure that's him. He's just--standing in a hole, or something.